Netflix Cracking Down on VPN Redirection
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Different parts of the world pay different fee levels.
Also, Once Netflix is world wide, you think the ISPs in the US are complaining, what about those in 3rd world countries? even those other first world ones.. lol
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F[moderated] it - just go back to pirating.
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@Nic said:
F[moderated] it - just go back to pirating.
I pirate what isn't on Netflix and use Netflix for what I can.
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There are some issues with proxies and other sites too, such as Craigslist. For instance we use Amazon for our Webroot proxy service, and Craigslist will refuse all IP addresses coming from Amazon servers, since they don't trust them. I'm not sure where all this is going but it doesn't look good.
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@Nic said:
There are some issues with proxies and other sites too, such as Craigslist. For instance we use Amazon for our Webroot proxy service, and Craigslist will refuse all IP addresses coming from Amazon servers, since they don't trust them. I'm not sure where all this is going but it doesn't look good.
Basically "security" will cripple itself. Blocking Amazon is just ridiculous.
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Agreed. We have to reach out to sites and sweet talk them into accepting our Amazon proxy IP addresses. I fear we're headed back to the days of AOL and Compuserv, where the Internet is balkanized.
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Netflix says that this is a false report.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Netflix says that this is a false report.
No, Netflix states that they did not change their policy or process. That does not mean that the report (that some users can no longer use a VPN) is false. Netflix policy is now, and always has been, to block known VPN services.
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@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Netflix says that this is a false report.
No, Netflix states that they did not change their policy or process. That does not mean that the report (that some users can no longer use a VPN) is false. Netflix policy is now, and always has been, to block known VPN services.
That's not in agreement with what Netflix stated. Maybe they are lying, but they say that not only has policy not changed but neither has the blocking:
"Speaking at this year's Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, he said: "People who are using a VPN to access our service from outside of the area will find that it still works exactly as it has always done."
He was speaking in response to widespread claims that the popular media streaming firm had begun a crackdown on customers who used VPNs at the behest of studios unhappy at their licensing arrangements being ignored."
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@scottalanmiller and there is another line in that article that states the blocking is always changing. Thus they very well might be blocking some new IP blocks, but that is not a new process or crackdown. It is part of their process.
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I get licencing restrictions in different countries, but I've never understood why it is enforced by IP blocking, Why can't they just say if you pay with a US credit-card you get US content, if you pay with a British credit-card you get British content? Wouldn't that be simpler? I appreciate that may mean changing some copyright laws.
I also don't understand why I pay more for Netflix than you Americans and yet I get access to considerably less content, but that's another issue.
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This is an issue that should have been resolved in the Napster era but the movie industry was too arrogant and was too busy bathing in their money to care.
The world is a global economy. Gone are the days where you had to ship container loads of VHS tapes to different countries. Movies go global in minutes not months.
The world has changed but sadly the movie industry has not. The music industry has made the change, so what's the hold up? Oh, that's right, I forgot that it's what the consumers want and are pleading for. It's not like doing what the paying consumers want is going to make you money or anything... or will it?
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@nadnerB said:
The music industry has made the change, so what's the hold up?
Not so much. There is a ton of music that I cannot buy in the US, so I just torrent it.
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There are some records on Spotify that are available in the US but not he UK, annoyingly.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
I get licencing restrictions in different countries, but I've never understood why it is enforced by IP blocking, Why can't they just say if you pay with a US credit-card you get US content, if you pay with a British credit-card you get British content? Wouldn't that be simpler? I appreciate that may mean changing some copyright laws.
That's really easy to work around. I'm moving to Europe in a few weeks but have an American credit card. It would give me (and anyone who wanted to pay me to pay for the service) access to anything as an American very easily. But, in reality, they will block me the moment that I leave the country.
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@scottalanmiller said:
That's really easy to work around.
I would have thought persuading you to pay for my Netflix subscription is a lot harder than installing a VPN extension on Chrome. If you don't agree, any chance of you lending me a hundred bucks?
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@Carnival-Boy said:
I would have thought persuading you to pay for my Netflix subscription is a lot harder than installing a VPN extension on Chrome. If you don't agree, any chance of you lending me a hundred bucks?
I've had Brits offer to pay me for use of US CC before (people I knew, not like Nigerian prince inquiries.) But the reality is is that getting a US bank account is super easy and if it was worth any money people would do that. The license restrictions, though, for content are by location of the viewer, not the nationality of the viewer. So the CC approach doesn't match the license restrictions.
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@scottalanmiller said:
The license restrictions, though, for content are by location of the viewer, not the nationality of the viewer.
And that's what's got to change. Ultimately, geographical restrictions are not compatible with the modern world and we need a new model.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
@scottalanmiller said:
The license restrictions, though, for content are by location of the viewer, not the nationality of the viewer.
And that's what's got to change. Ultimately, geographical restrictions are not compatible with the modern world and we need a new model.
But I doubt this is up to Netflix, it's up to the content providers.
