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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 So the question isn't do I really need those speeds, I'm trying to find comparable models for each use case. Which the use case for this one cisco model is supposed to be in a warehouse.

      • Coverage area, lots of metal structures to deal with
      • Two APs max
      • limited user totals - not high density

      I don't think the speed is the factor, more the range of coverage in that sort of area.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @travisdh1
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        @travisdh1 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

        Finally, I think you're multiplying instead of dividing with your math there.

        I probably am, but honestly this is the smallest issue of the topic, the real question is what are comparable options between the Cisco's and Ubiquiti's etc.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch Any input on the technical research for a comparison of the equipment vendors?

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

            @JaredBusch Any input on the technical research for a comparison of the equipment vendors?

            No. I'm busy pretending to work and arguing about USB on monitors.

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

              @travisdh1 So the question isn't do I really need those speeds, I'm trying to find comparable models for each use case. Which the use case for this one cisco model is supposed to be in a warehouse.

              • Coverage area, lots of metal structures to deal with
              • Two APs max
              • limited user totals - not high density

              I don't think the speed is the factor, more the range of coverage in that sort of area.

              Have you ever done a proper site survey? I think that's where you need to start.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @travisdh1
                last edited by DustinB3403

                @travisdh1 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

                Have you ever done a proper site survey? I think that's where you need to start.

                For this client no, they aren't huge by any means. They've got a hodgepodge of equipment today, but are sitting on a bunch of dated meraki AP's backed with a mixture of different switches.

                The usage for the warehouse is to support handheld computer type scanners for inventory control, no tablets/cell phones etc.

                The office space isn't overly large, maybe 100 of so office staff (at the most).

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                • jt1001001J
                  jt1001001
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                  @DustinB3403 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

                  MR46E,
                  Heres a good write up from one of my wifi instructors on real world client throughput. Only change I would make is most clients are 2ss today.
                  https://divdyn.com/wi-fi-throughput/

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

                    @travisdh1 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

                    Have you ever done a proper site survey? I think that's where you need to start.

                    For this client no, they aren't huge by any means. They've got a hodgepodge of equipment today, but are sitting on a bunch of dated meraki AP's backed with a mixture of different switches.

                    The usage for the warehouse is to support handheld computer type scanners for inventory control, no tablets/cell phones etc.

                    The office space isn't overly large, maybe 100 of so office staff (at the most).

                    That is going to be a large office area, 100 people take up a lot of space, unless a bunch of them are hot desking.

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                    • jt1001001J
                      jt1001001 @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 design for the least capable but most important device. Are the handheld devices capable of 5GHz or are they 2.4 GHz only?

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @jt1001001
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                        @jt1001001 good point, I don't know unfortunately but would find out before offerring an answer.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @travisdh1
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                          @travisdh1 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

                          @travisdh1 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

                          Have you ever done a proper site survey? I think that's where you need to start.

                          For this client no, they aren't huge by any means. They've got a hodgepodge of equipment today, but are sitting on a bunch of dated meraki AP's backed with a mixture of different switches.

                          The usage for the warehouse is to support handheld computer type scanners for inventory control, no tablets/cell phones etc.

                          The office space isn't overly large, maybe 100 of so office staff (at the most).

                          That is going to be a large office area, 100 people take up a lot of space, unless a bunch of them are hot desking.

                          The space is rather large, and while I would agree adding AP's may be the ideal approach, I can suspect the customer wouldn't approve adding cabling to run extra APs.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

                            @travisdh1 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

                            @travisdh1 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

                            Have you ever done a proper site survey? I think that's where you need to start.

                            For this client no, they aren't huge by any means. They've got a hodgepodge of equipment today, but are sitting on a bunch of dated meraki AP's backed with a mixture of different switches.

                            The usage for the warehouse is to support handheld computer type scanners for inventory control, no tablets/cell phones etc.

                            The office space isn't overly large, maybe 100 of so office staff (at the most).

                            That is going to be a large office area, 100 people take up a lot of space, unless a bunch of them are hot desking.

                            The space is rather large, and while I would agree adding AP's may be the ideal approach, I can suspect the customer wouldn't approve adding cabling to run extra APs.

                            How many do they have today?

                            I have around 40,000 sqft and I'm running 18 APs - this was based on a Cisco site survey 20 years ago, I could probably get away with half that day.

                            I did replace the Cisco's 4 years ago with Unifi AP Lites. As I said, I could have probably installed fewer, but I just did a one for one and they've been fine.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

                              ustomer wouldn't approve adding cabling to run extra APs.

                              How many do they have today?

                              That's kind of what I'm thinking of recommending, but would want to ensure that we're list apples to apples and not against grapefuites (if you get my point).

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

                                @Dashrender said in Trying to get metrics comparing two APs Cisco and Ubiquiti:

                                ustomer wouldn't approve adding cabling to run extra APs.

                                How many do they have today?

                                That's kind of what I'm thinking of recommending, but would want to ensure that we're list apples to apples and not against grapefuites (if you get my point).

                                well sure - so look at what the current APs support, then find something that does that or better for the new APs, You might have to play with power settings to keep things from overlapping to much,...

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