Redoing Home Network

I want to play with the UDM, it has the new Unifi firewall interface... very curious how it's different from USG.

https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/udm-pro

Primarily, new processor.

Dashrender

@scottalanmiller said in Redoing Home Network:

@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

I want to play with the UDM, it has the new Unifi firewall interface... very curious how it's different from USG.

https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/udm-pro

Primarily, new processor.

the specs say new Unifi OS also.

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

@scottalanmiller said in Redoing Home Network:

@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

I want to play with the UDM, it has the new Unifi firewall interface... very curious how it's different from USG.

https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/udm-pro

Primarily, new processor.

the specs say new Unifi OS also.

That too

JaredBusch

@jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:

Well Im sure i dont need all that but I like toys to play with and I look at it as future proofing lol.
Planning on:
Edgerouter 6p
Edgeswitch 8
Unifi Ap Pro

Does that seem like a solid combo? any reason I shouldn't?

WTF

Do you have any idea why you are doing? Why would you get a router with 6 ports? It is a router not a switch. It needs a WAN port and a LAN port. Maybe an extra WAN if you have multiple internet services. You use VLAN to your switches for anything else.

All EdgeMax devices can handle wire speed throughput if all the traffic is offloaded from the CPU. But things like QoS and a few other tasks cannot be offloaded.

The ER4 is the best thing in the EdgeMax line for most. The ERL should never be considered if you have > 50 mbps and need to use the router for QoS (which you should).

I have never been able to test an ER4 with QoS enabled on a circuit faster than 200mbps. But at least up to that point it was still getting full service speed.

JaredBusch

@jmoore but beyond all of that, you need to ask why are you spending this much on gear at home. Are you truly going to make use of it and do IT at home?

If not you are burning cash for no reason.

Buy an Amplifi Instant mesh system and a dumb switch, then move along.

IT at home was a great concept before we had cheap hosting and other places where we can spin things up and down at will.

jmoore

@JaredBusch said in Redoing Home Network:

Do you have any idea why you are doing? Why would you get a router with 6 ports? It is a router not a switch. It needs a WAN port and a LAN port. Maybe an extra WAN if you have multiple internet services. You use VLAN to your switches for anything else.

Believe it or not i did give this some thought.(not saying its correct thought lol) I am actually surprised more people haven't given a similar reaction. i do know how much I am overbuying. I went through the products and purposely selected a good middle ground for everything. The reasons were multiple:

I wanted it to be a learning project and I wanted to play with really good stuff and this was in my budget.
Wife works for federal government and is permanent work at home and wanted really solid equipment so she wouldn't stress about things going down. She stresses a lot! We both wanted more professional equipment for a while, for multiple reasons.
I know I will probably never need 6 ports on a router but again its not much money. Buying lesser equipment really wasn't that much less. It does give me room to expand in future. I already have a switch in wife's office and will be adding one to each kids room eventually. So this is a whole house project, not just my office. I also plan on experimenting with pbx's and plan on buying a supermicro server soon for more experimentation and I admit, fun.

I know I can use hosting services and I do actually on a regular basis. Since she wanted more of a business infrastructure at home and I wanted to try to replicate a business setting for learning purposes, I felt the time was right. Its not much of an investment and if I learn from something with a lot of features I would see in a better job, then it is worth it to me.

Thankyou for your comment and advice though, hardly anyone else even spoke up, so I appreciate it!

Dashrender

I've with JB - You should save the money and get an ER-4. The processor is the same.

POE can be done in the switches, so no need for that in the router.
The ER-4 is nearly half the ER-6.

1337

@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

I've with JB - You should save the money and get an ER-4. The processor is the same.

POE can be done in the switches, so no need for that in the router.
The ER-4 is nearly half the ER-6.

Isn't POE also better in the switches? I thought Ubiquity used some odd DIY standard for POE, at least in the past.

Dashrender

@Pete-S said in Redoing Home Network:

@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

I've with JB - You should save the money and get an ER-4. The processor is the same.

POE can be done in the switches, so no need for that in the router.
The ER-4 is nearly half the ER-6.

Isn't POE also better in the switches? I thought Ubiquity used some odd DIY standard for POE, at least in the past.

They still do in some places.

jmoore

@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

I've with JB - You should save the money and get an ER-4. The processor is the same.

POE can be done in the switches, so no need for that in the router.
The ER-4 is nearly half the ER-6.

I already ordered the pieces. Thanks for your input though. I needed a router with 4 ports for my 4 rooms plus the incoming port. I plan to use and learn everything about it.

EddieJennings

@jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:

@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

I've with JB - You should save the money and get an ER-4. The processor is the same.

POE can be done in the switches, so no need for that in the router.
The ER-4 is nearly half the ER-6.

I already ordered the pieces. Thanks for your input though. I needed a router with 4 ports for my 4 rooms plus the incoming port. I plan to use and learn everything about it.

So each room will be its own network?

1337

@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

@Pete-S said in Redoing Home Network:

@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

I've with JB - You should save the money and get an ER-4. The processor is the same.

POE can be done in the switches, so no need for that in the router.
The ER-4 is nearly half the ER-6.

Isn't POE also better in the switches? I thought Ubiquity used some odd DIY standard for POE, at least in the past.

They still do in some places.

Yeah, you're right. Had a look right now and ER-6P has non-standard PoE. Hopefully no one plugs in the wrong thing in a port that has PoE switched on. My guess is that the purpose with that was to power APs directly and not much else.

99% of Ubiquity's switches (except the lowest cost ones) that has PoE follows the PoE standards (802.3af, 802.3at and 802.3bt).

jmoore

@EddieJennings said in Redoing Home Network:

@jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:

@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

I've with JB - You should save the money and get an ER-4. The processor is the same.

POE can be done in the switches, so no need for that in the router.
The ER-4 is nearly half the ER-6.

I already ordered the pieces. Thanks for your input though. I needed a router with 4 ports for my 4 rooms plus the incoming port. I plan to use and learn everything about it.

So each room will be its own network?

Each room will have an 8-port switch because everyone has a lot of devices.

EddieJennings

@jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:

@EddieJennings said in Redoing Home Network:

@jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:

@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

I've with JB - You should save the money and get an ER-4. The processor is the same.

POE can be done in the switches, so no need for that in the router.
The ER-4 is nearly half the ER-6.

I already ordered the pieces. Thanks for your input though. I needed a router with 4 ports for my 4 rooms plus the incoming port. I plan to use and learn everything about it.

So each room will be its own network?

Each room will have an 8-port switch because everyone has a lot of devices.

And since those switches will be going to a unique port on your router, they'll each be unique subnets (networks).