Redoing Home Network
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@jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:
@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:
Unifi APs are the only Ubiquiti option, so not any choices to really make there.
Unifi has newer firewalls in that line that have a new OS, haven't seen it yet to know if it's better than what's on the USG (which mostly just sucks).
The USG should be able to handle 1 Gb as long as you aren't doing any filtering/QOSing, if yes, then you'll need more processing power.
Part of the issue is that I cant tell whats newer or older on their product page. I looked at specs and picked best cpu/memory option that has poe and thats what looks like the best. I could be way off. Never ordered from them before.
yeah, I heard ya, but in general that part doesn't really matter, as you've already done, it's more about getting the cpu needed for your end goal.
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@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:
@jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:
@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:
Unifi APs are the only Ubiquiti option, so not any choices to really make there.
Unifi has newer firewalls in that line that have a new OS, haven't seen it yet to know if it's better than what's on the USG (which mostly just sucks).
The USG should be able to handle 1 Gb as long as you aren't doing any filtering/QOSing, if yes, then you'll need more processing power.
Part of the issue is that I cant tell whats newer or older on their product page. I looked at specs and picked best cpu/memory option that has poe and thats what looks like the best. I could be way off. Never ordered from them before.
yeah, I heard ya, but in general that part doesn't really matter, as you've already done, it's more about getting the cpu needed for your end goal.
Well Im sure i dont need all that but I like toys to play with and I look at it as future proofing lol.
Planning on:
Edgerouter 6p
Edgeswitch 8
Unifi Ap ProDoes that seem like a solid combo? any reason I shouldn't?
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@jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:
@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:
@jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:
@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:
Unifi APs are the only Ubiquiti option, so not any choices to really make there.
Unifi has newer firewalls in that line that have a new OS, haven't seen it yet to know if it's better than what's on the USG (which mostly just sucks).
The USG should be able to handle 1 Gb as long as you aren't doing any filtering/QOSing, if yes, then you'll need more processing power.
Part of the issue is that I cant tell whats newer or older on their product page. I looked at specs and picked best cpu/memory option that has poe and thats what looks like the best. I could be way off. Never ordered from them before.
yeah, I heard ya, but in general that part doesn't really matter, as you've already done, it's more about getting the cpu needed for your end goal.
Well Im sure i dont need all that but I like toys to play with and I look at it as future proofing lol.
Planning on:
Edgerouter 6p
Edgeswitch 8
Unifi Ap ProDoes that seem like a solid combo? any reason I shouldn't?
ER-6 and AP Pro could be over kill, future proofing isn't worth the dollars, unless you know you're upgrading to something higher than you have now for sure in like 6 months, chances are much more likely you'll use this for several years and new equipment will be out that you'd likely rather go to.... that said, it's good stuff.
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@Dashrender Ok thanks for the advice. Im looking for just a bit of overkill. I would like to upgrade more equipment in future so want this to be my backbone.
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I want to play with the UDM, it has the new Unifi firewall interface... very curious how it's different from USG.
https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/udm-pro
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@Dashrender Ooh taking a look at that. I dont need it but its interesting!
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@jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:
@Dashrender Ooh taking a look at that. I dont need it but its interesting!
Agreed - we talked about here a few weeks ago... the new interface is the big thing I'm interested in.. but I"m also running a USG at home and considering moving to 1 Gb service at home and will need to upgrade my router...
but discussion back then Scott was like - who would want that? -
@Dashrender I'm sure it works just fine. Sometimes you don't know its subtleties until you try it too.
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lovely, looks like PCM lost my account info
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@jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:
lovely, looks like PCM lost my account info
they were bought by insight
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Yeah I see that. So they require a PO and this is just personal. Do I have any options to buy from them like I have before or am I just stuck?
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@jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:
lovely, looks like PCM lost my account info
PCM was bought out. Email Yonah for help.
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@jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:
Yeah I see that. So they require a PO and this is just personal. Do I have any options to buy from them like I have before or am I just stuck?
They dont. You need a real rep. Ill ping you.
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@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:
I want to play with the UDM, it has the new Unifi firewall interface... very curious how it's different from USG.
https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/udm-pro
Primarily, new processor.
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@scottalanmiller said in Redoing Home Network:
@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:
I want to play with the UDM, it has the new Unifi firewall interface... very curious how it's different from USG.
https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/udm-pro
Primarily, new processor.
the specs say new Unifi OS also.
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@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:
@scottalanmiller said in Redoing Home Network:
@Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:
I want to play with the UDM, it has the new Unifi firewall interface... very curious how it's different from USG.
https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/udm-pro
Primarily, new processor.
the specs say new Unifi OS also.
That too
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@jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:
Well Im sure i dont need all that but I like toys to play with and I look at it as future proofing lol.
Planning on:
Edgerouter 6p
Edgeswitch 8
Unifi Ap ProDoes that seem like a solid combo? any reason I shouldn't?
WTF
Do you have any idea why you are doing? Why would you get a router with 6 ports? It is a router not a switch. It needs a WAN port and a LAN port. Maybe an extra WAN if you have multiple internet services. You use VLAN to your switches for anything else.
All EdgeMax devices can handle wire speed throughput if all the traffic is offloaded from the CPU. But things like QoS and a few other tasks cannot be offloaded.
The ER4 is the best thing in the EdgeMax line for most. The ERL should never be considered if you have > 50 mbps and need to use the router for QoS (which you should).
I have never been able to test an ER4 with QoS enabled on a circuit faster than 200mbps. But at least up to that point it was still getting full service speed.
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@jmoore but beyond all of that, you need to ask why are you spending this much on gear at home. Are you truly going to make use of it and do IT at home?
If not you are burning cash for no reason.
Buy an Amplifi Instant mesh system and a dumb switch, then move along.
IT at home was a great concept before we had cheap hosting and other places where we can spin things up and down at will.
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@JaredBusch said in Redoing Home Network:
Do you have any idea why you are doing? Why would you get a router with 6 ports? It is a router not a switch. It needs a WAN port and a LAN port. Maybe an extra WAN if you have multiple internet services. You use VLAN to your switches for anything else.
Believe it or not i did give this some thought.(not saying its correct thought lol) I am actually surprised more people haven't given a similar reaction. i do know how much I am overbuying. I went through the products and purposely selected a good middle ground for everything. The reasons were multiple:
- I wanted it to be a learning project and I wanted to play with really good stuff and this was in my budget.
- Wife works for federal government and is permanent work at home and wanted really solid equipment so she wouldn't stress about things going down. She stresses a lot! We both wanted more professional equipment for a while, for multiple reasons.
- I know I will probably never need 6 ports on a router but again its not much money. Buying lesser equipment really wasn't that much less. It does give me room to expand in future. I already have a switch in wife's office and will be adding one to each kids room eventually. So this is a whole house project, not just my office. I also plan on experimenting with pbx's and plan on buying a supermicro server soon for more experimentation and I admit, fun.
I know I can use hosting services and I do actually on a regular basis. Since she wanted more of a business infrastructure at home and I wanted to try to replicate a business setting for learning purposes, I felt the time was right. Its not much of an investment and if I learn from something with a lot of features I would see in a better job, then it is worth it to me.
Thankyou for your comment and advice though, hardly anyone else even spoke up, so I appreciate it!
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I've with JB - You should save the money and get an ER-4. The processor is the same.
POE can be done in the switches, so no need for that in the router.
The ER-4 is nearly half the ER-6.
