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      JasGot @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

      @JasGot said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

      Easily managed from a remote location, either through NAT in a firewall, or directly - through a VPN.

      KVM really shines here. I've not seen anything come close.

      Which Linux do you prefer to use for KVM installs?

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        scottalanmiller @JasGot
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        @JasGot said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

        @scottalanmiller said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

        @JasGot said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

        Easily managed from a remote location, either through NAT in a firewall, or directly - through a VPN.

        KVM really shines here. I've not seen anything come close.

        Which Linux do you prefer to use for KVM installs?

        We are using Fedora 31 currently. But are going to test out Ubuntu. Either would really be fine. KVM is something that I want way more than most things to be very current.

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          scottalanmiller @VoIP_n00b
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          @VoIP_n00b said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

          Proxmox

          Been a long time. Giving it a try now that they (the company) have been silent and behaving well for so long. Seeing if maybe they just had a bad week or something.

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            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

            @stacksofplates said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

            I don't use their stuff, I just use the cli because I can automate that with Ansible or Terraform or whatever, but I'd love to have a REST API for bare KVM. Doesn't even need a GUI, it would just make interacting with systems so much easier.

            I find it surprising that there is much concern for this on smaller scale systems like where this would be common. A really nice feature enhancement, to be sure, but surprised to see it as something many people would care about.

            It would make writing interactions with it much easier and make smaller scale systems much easier to manage and more popular.

            Firecracker is a great example of using KVM with an API first mindset.

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              scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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              @stacksofplates said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

              @scottalanmiller said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

              @stacksofplates said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

              I don't use their stuff, I just use the cli because I can automate that with Ansible or Terraform or whatever, but I'd love to have a REST API for bare KVM. Doesn't even need a GUI, it would just make interacting with systems so much easier.

              I find it surprising that there is much concern for this on smaller scale systems like where this would be common. A really nice feature enhancement, to be sure, but surprised to see it as something many people would care about.

              It would make writing interactions with it much easier and make smaller scale systems much easier to manage and more popular.

              Firecracker is a great example of using KVM with an API first mindset.

              Oh I like the idea, for sure. And have ideas of where we could use it. But we tend to be an outlyer on that stuff.

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                black3dynamite @JasGot
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                @JasGot said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                @scottalanmiller said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                @JasGot said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                Easily managed from a remote location, either through NAT in a firewall, or directly - through a VPN.

                KVM really shines here. I've not seen anything come close.

                Which Linux do you prefer to use for KVM installs?

                If you want to use Cockpit to manage your KVM, I preferred Fedora just because it always gets the latest version of Cockpit.

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                  scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                  @black3dynamite said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                  @JasGot said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                  @JasGot said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                  Easily managed from a remote location, either through NAT in a firewall, or directly - through a VPN.

                  KVM really shines here. I've not seen anything come close.

                  Which Linux do you prefer to use for KVM installs?

                  If you want to use Cockpit to manage your KVM, I preferred Fedora just because it always gets the latest version of Cockpit.

                  Good point, and certainly part of what we are doing.

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                    travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                    @VoIP_n00b said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                    Proxmox

                    Been a long time. Giving it a try now that they (the company) have been silent and behaving well for so long. Seeing if maybe they just had a bad week or something.

                    Are they still insisting that software RAID is an unusable technology?

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                      black3dynamite @travisdh1
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                      @travisdh1 said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                      @VoIP_n00b said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                      Proxmox

                      Been a long time. Giving it a try now that they (the company) have been silent and behaving well for so long. Seeing if maybe they just had a bad week or something.

                      Are they still insisting that software RAID is an unusable technology?

                      Supported configuration hardware raid and zfs raid during the installation.
                      https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Software_RAID

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                        DustinB3403 @black3dynamite
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                        @black3dynamite said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                        @travisdh1 said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                        @VoIP_n00b said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                        Proxmox

                        Been a long time. Giving it a try now that they (the company) have been silent and behaving well for so long. Seeing if maybe they just had a bad week or something.

                        Are they still insisting that software RAID is an unusable technology?

                        Supported configuration hardware raid and zfs raid during the installation.
                        https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Software_RAID

                        So it is, as long as you're using ZFS and not specifically mdadm.

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                          travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                          @black3dynamite said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                          @travisdh1 said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                          @VoIP_n00b said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                          Proxmox

                          Been a long time. Giving it a try now that they (the company) have been silent and behaving well for so long. Seeing if maybe they just had a bad week or something.

                          Are they still insisting that software RAID is an unusable technology?

                          Supported configuration hardware raid and zfs raid during the installation.
                          https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Software_RAID

                          So it is, as long as you're using ZFS and not specifically mdadm.

                          bah

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                            JasGot
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                            I appreciate all the very informative and valuable input. I have downloaded Ubuntu 19.10 and Proxmox 6.1

                            I'll give them both some attention today and see which I prefer.

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                              dafyre @JasGot
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                              @JasGot said in Managing Type 1 Hyper Visors:

                              I appreciate all the very informative and valuable input. I have downloaded Ubuntu 19.10 and Proxmox 6.1

                              I'll give them both some attention today and see which I prefer.

                              I'm running KVM on Ubuntu 19.10... and am migrating from KVM on Linux Mint 18.3 (my home server(s)).

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                                Mario Jakovina @JasGot
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                                @JasGot In my company, we use XCP-ng on 4 small hosts with maybe 10 VMs on them (2 Win RDP servers, few Linux fileservers...). We manage them with XCP-ng center (Windows app) in LAN and with Xen Orchestra remotely. We are very satisfied with XCP and management is pretty simple. We are no experts but beginners.
                                We cloned some VMs, copied them from host to host, added additoinal storage after installation...

                                I tried to install KVM few times and I find it confusing to setup and manage.

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