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      scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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      @hobbit666 said in AMD Vs Intel:

      ecause that's what the others in the dept "prefer" lol

      I hate "prefer". To be fair, I "prefer" AMD, but I really try to stick to whatever makes business sense on a purchase by purchase basis.

      But "prefer" is just another way of saying "intentionally not doing what they know is best." We all do it, watching ourselves for having "preferences" is a way to spot ourselves being emotional.

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        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in AMD Vs Intel:

        @hobbit666 said in AMD Vs Intel:

        @Pete-S said in AMD Vs Intel:

        @hobbit666 said in AMD Vs Intel:

        Been offered some HP 285 G3 - MICRO TOWER - 1 X RYZEN 3 PRO 2200G

        Why microtower computers? Do you need PCIe slots?

        No reason that's just what was given as a samole. We have been opting for the Dell Micros recently, so will be looking at that in a AMD version HP or Dell

        @ysapir gets me amazing deals on the HP AMD units.

        Glad you have good experience, PCM can bite me.

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          hobbit666 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in AMD Vs Intel:

          @hobbit666 said in AMD Vs Intel:

          ecause that's what the others in the dept "prefer" lol

          I hate "prefer". To be fair, I "prefer" AMD, but I really try to stick to whatever makes business sense on a purchase by purchase basis.

          Yeah trying to move from that and get what's required for the job 😁 I'm just as guilty of it

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            1337 @hobbit666
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            @hobbit666 said in AMD Vs Intel:

            @Pete-S said in AMD Vs Intel:

            @hobbit666 said in AMD Vs Intel:

            Been offered some HP 285 G3 - MICRO TOWER - 1 X RYZEN 3 PRO 2200G

            Why microtower computers? Do you need PCIe slots?

            No reason that's just what was given as a samole. We have been opting for the Dell Micros recently, so will be looking at that in a AMD version HP or Dell

            Microtowers are not bad as such and can often be an advantage actually. If we look at intel for instance they call everything i3, i5 etc. But there is a hell of a difference in performance between the desktop CPU series and the laptop CPU series.

            Microtowers and larger format desktops have the desktop CPUs but everything in the really small form factor has the laptop CPUs.

            But CPUs are generally not critical for general office work however make sure you get units with SSDs and not spinning rust. That will make a real difference for a lot of users. The slowest CPU with an SSD will beat the faster CPU with a HDD.

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              Obsolesce @1337
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              @Pete-S said in AMD Vs Intel:

              @hobbit666 said in AMD Vs Intel:

              @Pete-S said in AMD Vs Intel:

              @hobbit666 said in AMD Vs Intel:

              Been offered some HP 285 G3 - MICRO TOWER - 1 X RYZEN 3 PRO 2200G

              Why microtower computers? Do you need PCIe slots?

              No reason that's just what was given as a samole. We have been opting for the Dell Micros recently, so will be looking at that in a AMD version HP or Dell

              Microtowers are not bad as such and can often be an advantage actually. If we look at intel for instance they call everything i3, i5 etc. But there is a hell of a difference in performance between the desktop CPU series and the laptop CPU series.

              Microtowers and larger format desktops have the desktop CPUs but everything in the really small form factor has the laptop CPUs.

              But CPUs are generally not critical for general office work however make sure you get units with SSDs and not spinning rust. That will make a real difference for a lot of users. The slowest CPU with an SSD will beat the faster CPU with a HDD.

              Yup, ANY modern CPU, SSD, and 8GB RAM would be a good starting point for a regular Win10 office PC.

              That should cover the following RAM requiremets added together:

              • Win10 RAM requirements
              • Web Browser RAM requirements
              • MS Office RAM requirements
              • Minor misc.
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                DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
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                @Obsolesce said in AMD Vs Intel:

                @Pete-S said in AMD Vs Intel:

                @hobbit666 said in AMD Vs Intel:

                @Pete-S said in AMD Vs Intel:

                @hobbit666 said in AMD Vs Intel:

                Been offered some HP 285 G3 - MICRO TOWER - 1 X RYZEN 3 PRO 2200G

                Why microtower computers? Do you need PCIe slots?

                No reason that's just what was given as a samole. We have been opting for the Dell Micros recently, so will be looking at that in a AMD version HP or Dell

                Microtowers are not bad as such and can often be an advantage actually. If we look at intel for instance they call everything i3, i5 etc. But there is a hell of a difference in performance between the desktop CPU series and the laptop CPU series.

                Microtowers and larger format desktops have the desktop CPUs but everything in the really small form factor has the laptop CPUs.

                But CPUs are generally not critical for general office work however make sure you get units with SSDs and not spinning rust. That will make a real difference for a lot of users. The slowest CPU with an SSD will beat the faster CPU with a HDD.

                Yup, ANY modern CPU, SSD, and 8GB RAM would be a good starting point for a regular Win10 office PC.

                That should cover the following RAM requiremets added together:

                • Win10 RAM requirements
                • Web Browser Chrome noms-noms RAM requirements
                • MS Office RAM requirements
                • Minor misc.

                FTFY

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                  dafyre @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in AMD Vs Intel:

                  @Obsolesce said in AMD Vs Intel:

                  @Pete-S said in AMD Vs Intel:

                  @hobbit666 said in AMD Vs Intel:

                  @Pete-S said in AMD Vs Intel:

                  @hobbit666 said in AMD Vs Intel:

                  Been offered some HP 285 G3 - MICRO TOWER - 1 X RYZEN 3 PRO 2200G

                  Why microtower computers? Do you need PCIe slots?

                  No reason that's just what was given as a samole. We have been opting for the Dell Micros recently, so will be looking at that in a AMD version HP or Dell

                  Microtowers are not bad as such and can often be an advantage actually. If we look at intel for instance they call everything i3, i5 etc. But there is a hell of a difference in performance between the desktop CPU series and the laptop CPU series.

                  Microtowers and larger format desktops have the desktop CPUs but everything in the really small form factor has the laptop CPUs.

                  But CPUs are generally not critical for general office work however make sure you get units with SSDs and not spinning rust. That will make a real difference for a lot of users. The slowest CPU with an SSD will beat the faster CPU with a HDD.

                  Yup, ANY modern CPU, SSD, and 8GB RAM would be a good starting point for a regular Win10 office PC.

                  That should cover the following RAM requiremets added together:

                  • Win10 RAM requirements
                  • Web Browser Chrome noms-noms RAM requirements
                  • MS Office RAM requirements
                  • Minor misc.

                  FTFY

                  7GB of Ram for Chrome, 1GB for everything else.

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                    scottalanmiller @1337
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                    @Pete-S said in AMD Vs Intel:

                    But CPUs are generally not critical for general office work however make sure you get units with SSDs and not spinning rust. That will make a real difference for a lot of users. The slowest CPU with an SSD will beat the faster CPU with a HDD.

                    Yeah, in reality, price on CPU is king. RAM and disk matter way more. People tend to get obsessed with CPU when it matters extremely little.

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                      black3dynamite
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                      I really miss my AMD Phenom II desktop. That was my first and last AMD CPU.

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                        scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                        @black3dynamite said in AMD Vs Intel:

                        I really miss my AMD Phenom II desktop. That was my first and last AMD CPU.

                        That was a good one. That one for me was my first SSD machine, and had 6GB of RAM. I used that machine for nearly ten years! It was so good. But it was my fourth AMD desktop, I believe. It was my HP dc5850. I had had the D730 I think, the Athlon XP 32bit model, then I had the dx5150 which was the first HP / AMD 64bit desktop, amazing machines. Then the dc5750 briefly, then the dc5850. All four were classics of "AMD made the best desktops ever." And they had hardware RAID on the mobo! Only ones I've ever seen.

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                          hobbit666
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                          Going to wait until we need some more desktops, then re-look at what Ryzens we can see and try

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                            scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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                            @hobbit666 said in AMD Vs Intel:

                            Going to wait until we need some more desktops, then re-look at what Ryzens we can see and try

                            Seriously consider the normal AMDs, too. The A line. That's the line meant for business use. Ryzens are too expensive for normal office use, they are high performance CAD, power user, or gaming procs.

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