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    • brandon220B
      brandon220 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller Ok. I'll try scaling back a bit and see how it goes.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Nginx VM:

        @bnrstnr said in Nginx VM:

        @scottalanmiller said in Nginx VM:

        @bnrstnr said in Nginx VM:

        I think the worst part about running with 512MB is installing Fedora. That was painful, even in text mode.

        Really? Been a while since I did it with that little RAM, but I do from time to time and don't remember it being any different.

        Idk if it was just the process on Vultr with the custom ISO, or what, but it was bad. I think the last time I did it was Fedora 27, so it's definitely been a while.

        Oh, custom ISO. Maybe I've not tried that in a few versions.

        Yes, using the ISO (any) of fedora 28+ is slower than hell on 512 RAM.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @bnrstnr
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          @bnrstnr said in Nginx VM:

          I think the worst part about running with 512MB is installing Fedora. That was painful, even in text mode.

          How do you get text mode on Fedora 28+ I don't see the menu choice.

          Note: I never bothered to even Google. I just let the install chug along and do something else.

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          • brandon220B
            brandon220
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            I always use the NetInstall and do minimal. Don't see any reason not to.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @brandon220
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              @brandon220 said in Nginx VM:

              I always use the NetInstall and do minimal. Don't see any reason not to.

              So do I. But there is no text install option in the menu.

              There is no difference between the ISO versions on the ungodly slow speed during the install when using 512MB RAM.

              The reason to do NetInstall is to not have to turn around and do a major update right after you install. I mean you would never install from the full ISO and then not immediately run dnf upgrade would you?

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                bnrstnr @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in Nginx VM:

                @bnrstnr said in Nginx VM:

                I think the worst part about running with 512MB is installing Fedora. That was painful, even in text mode.

                How do you get text mode on Fedora 28+ I don't see the menu choice.

                Note: I never bothered to even Google. I just let the install chug along and do something else.

                Hit tab while Install Fedora 28/29 is selected, and add inst.text
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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @bnrstnr
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                  @bnrstnr said in Nginx VM:

                  @JaredBusch said in Nginx VM:

                  @bnrstnr said in Nginx VM:

                  I think the worst part about running with 512MB is installing Fedora. That was painful, even in text mode.

                  How do you get text mode on Fedora 28+ I don't see the menu choice.

                  Note: I never bothered to even Google. I just let the install chug along and do something else.

                  Hit tab while Install Fedora 28/29 is selected, and add inst.text
                  02579ed5-04ca-4c0e-83fc-792ce22b4324-image.png

                  Thanks. Told you I never bothered to even check the Google.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @bnrstnr
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                    @bnrstnr said in Nginx VM:

                    I think the worst part about running with 512MB is installing Fedora. That was painful, even in text mode.

                    I've been giving a vm 2GB of ram to get through the install, and dropping it down to where I actually want it after it's done.

                    Of course, I normally deploy by cloning a snapshot, so I rarely need to go through the entire install process.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @travisdh1
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                      @travisdh1 said in Nginx VM:

                      @bnrstnr said in Nginx VM:

                      I think the worst part about running with 512MB is installing Fedora. That was painful, even in text mode.

                      I've been giving a vm 2GB of ram to get through the install, and dropping it down to where I actually want it after it's done.

                      Of course, I normally deploy by cloning a snapshot, so I rarely need to go through the entire install process.

                      I am always doing it in different places. I have no reason to create a base image.

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                      • hobbit666H
                        hobbit666
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                        Always wondered what the min install size you can get away with.
                        I usually go for 80gb but will start reducing this 😁

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @hobbit666
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                          @hobbit666 said in Nginx VM:

                          Always wondered what the min install size you can get away with.
                          I usually go for 80gb but will start reducing this 😁

                          Fedora 27 minimal was ~1.2GB if I remember correctly.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
                            last edited by JaredBusch

                            Like others I use a 20GB vDisk if it is on local/colo infrastructure.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                              @travisdh1 said in Nginx VM:

                              @hobbit666 said in Nginx VM:

                              Always wondered what the min install size you can get away with.
                              I usually go for 80gb but will start reducing this 😁

                              Fedora 27 minimal was ~1.2GB if I remember correctly.

                              For the OS, but logs are the bigger component.

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                                1337
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                                I think 20GB is outrageously large. 8GB or preferably 4GB.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @1337
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                                  @Pete-S said in Nginx VM:

                                  I think 20GB is outrageously large. 8GB or preferably 4GB.

                                  Thin provision though - so what does it really matter?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @1337
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                                    @Pete-S said in Nginx VM:

                                    I think 20GB is outrageously large. 8GB or preferably 4GB.

                                    Kind of, but thin provisioning means that we could also say that 8GB is unreasonably small. Why not have the buffer room "just in case" since it costs nothing?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said in Nginx VM:

                                      @Pete-S said in Nginx VM:

                                      I think 20GB is outrageously large. 8GB or preferably 4GB.

                                      Thin provision though - so what does it really matter?

                                      That's why we do it, avoid unnecessary limitations just in case a log explodes or we need to move files around or decide to change how something is used in the future. I've seen too many installs over the years have issues because they cut it as close as projected but then needed just a little extra space.

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                                      • brandon220B
                                        brandon220
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                                        I saw that a lot on Ubuntu installs - The /boot partition that the installer created was always too small for the kernels after a few updates. Have yet to see that happen in Fedora.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @brandon220
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                                          @brandon220 said in Nginx VM:

                                          I saw that a lot on Ubuntu installs - The /boot partition that the installer created was always too small for the kernels after a few updates. Have yet to see that happen in Fedora.

                                          Fedora handles that space completely different. No issues there. Current Ubuntu does not, either. I prefer Fedora, but Ubuntu is fine. Issues of old versions don't affect the current one.

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                                          • brandon220B
                                            brandon220
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                                            I had a heck of a battle last night with KVM. I converted to VMs built in HV 2019 to KVM on Fedora 29. Had to use dracut and reload the kernel to get them to boot. Took a while as I am not an expert by any means with KVM. I am upgrading a server tonight and still am on the fence about which hypervisor to go with on the new build. I like KVM because it is "lightweight" and has not given me any grief on guests that were built on the host and not migrated to it. I have a handful of HV hosts and no issues either. This new install will only be running Fedora guests. Leaning more towards KVM. I wish there was an "export" feature built into virt-manager.

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