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      dyasny @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

      IBM's biggest challenge is cruft and an inability to dance. They want to do good things, but so moment inertia.

      My point exactly - they are much more rigid and there will be a huge culture clash on the inside. People will leave in droves, so you better watch for them starting new companies, and invest in the next OSS giant. Also, a lot of the open projects that haven't been making them too much money might get hurt.

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        Someone I was talking to said:

        "Interesting hot take; how long until Microsoft buys Canonical and Ubuntu becomes Microsoft Linux for Servers and Workstations. If that's the war IBM is starting, it's almost a certainty at some point."

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          dyasny @stacksofplates
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          @stacksofplates Canonical isn't a player in the cloud space. Sure they have some products but their market share is puny.

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            scottalanmiller @dyasny
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            @dyasny said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

            @stacksofplates Canonical isn't a player in the cloud space. Sure they have some products but their market share is puny.

            I thought that they were the top player in the cloud space and RH was in second.

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              dyasny @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

              I thought that they were the top player in the cloud space and RH was in second.

              Not even close afaik, the only deals they can get are in companies that have diehard ubuntu fanboys running the show.

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                scottalanmiller @dyasny
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                @dyasny said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                I thought that they were the top player in the cloud space and RH was in second.

                Not even close afaik, the only deals they can get are in companies that have diehard ubuntu fanboys running the show.

                Old, but last that I knew...

                https://www.zdnet.com/article/ubuntu-linux-continues-to-rule-the-cloud/

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                  stacksofplates @dyasny
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                  @dyasny said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                  @stacksofplates Canonical isn't a player in the cloud space. Sure they have some products but their market share is puny.

                  I don't think he was specifically mentioning cloud. Just that MS would use this opportunity to purchase them.

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                    dyasny @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                    Old, but last that I knew...

                    https://www.zdnet.com/article/ubuntu-linux-continues-to-rule-the-cloud/

                    I meant as a platform to build clouds, not as an ephemeral instance. Those aren't bringing any money in to Canonical, no matter how many of them get deployed here and there.

                    If you look at actual clouds built on Linux, (and really, there aren't many that are not, out there), Ubnutu is definitely very far from being the platform of choice. If you subtract the actually supported and paid for machines in that pool... well, you know what the answer will be

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      https://www.similartech.com/compare/red-hat-vs-ubuntu

                      It's web, not cloud, but web is a leading workload for cloud.

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                        scottalanmiller @dyasny
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                        @dyasny said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                        @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                        Old, but last that I knew...

                        https://www.zdnet.com/article/ubuntu-linux-continues-to-rule-the-cloud/

                        I meant as a platform to build clouds, not as an ephemeral instance. Those aren't bringing any money in to Canonical, no matter how many of them get deployed here and there.

                        If you look at actual clouds built on Linux, (and really, there aren't many that are not, out there), Ubnutu is definitely very far from being the platform of choice. If you subtract the actually supported and paid for machines in that pool... well, you know what the answer will be

                        OIC, yes, that might easily be. No idea what people are building on.

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                          dyasny @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                          OIC, yes, that might easily be. No idea what people are building on.

                          I've built quite a few, and very often I would come in, remove Ubuntu with Canonical's juju whatever or Mirantis fuel, and deploy, as a final production setup, not a POC. That was my job, pretty much, with Openstack.

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                            scottalanmiller @dyasny
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                            @dyasny said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                            @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                            OIC, yes, that might easily be. No idea what people are building on.

                            I've built quite a few, and very often I would come in, remove Ubuntu with Canonical's juju whatever or Mirantis fuel, and deploy, as a final production setup, not a POC. That was my job, pretty much, with Openstack.

                            Haha, Juju.

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                              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                              @dyasny said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                              @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                              OIC, yes, that might easily be. No idea what people are building on.

                              I've built quite a few, and very often I would come in, remove Ubuntu with Canonical's juju whatever or Mirantis fuel, and deploy, as a final production setup, not a POC. That was my job, pretty much, with Openstack.

                              Haha, Juju.

                              I use that term, not often, but it is used.

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                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                @dyasny said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                OIC, yes, that might easily be. No idea what people are building on.

                                I've built quite a few, and very often I would come in, remove Ubuntu with Canonical's juju whatever or Mirantis fuel, and deploy, as a final production setup, not a POC. That was my job, pretty much, with Openstack.

                                Haha, Juju.

                                I use that term, not often, but it is used.

                                Not the term. It's an actual Canonical project.

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                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  https://jujucharms.com/

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                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                    @JaredBusch said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                    @dyasny said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                    OIC, yes, that might easily be. No idea what people are building on.

                                    I've built quite a few, and very often I would come in, remove Ubuntu with Canonical's juju whatever or Mirantis fuel, and deploy, as a final production setup, not a POC. That was my job, pretty much, with Openstack.

                                    Haha, Juju.

                                    I use that term, not often, but it is used.

                                    Not the term. It's an actual Canonical project.

                                    Hah, well reading that, I see that my usage of the term is appropriate.. because it is usually me saying "bad juju"

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                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                      @JaredBusch said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                      @dyasny said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                      OIC, yes, that might easily be. No idea what people are building on.

                                      I've built quite a few, and very often I would come in, remove Ubuntu with Canonical's juju whatever or Mirantis fuel, and deploy, as a final production setup, not a POC. That was my job, pretty much, with Openstack.

                                      Haha, Juju.

                                      I use that term, not often, but it is used.

                                      Not the term. It's an actual Canonical project.

                                      Hah, well reading that, I see that my usage of the term is appropriate.. because it is usually me saying "bad juju"

                                      Yeah, I use it that way, too. Once in a while.

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                                        dyasny @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                        Yeah, I use it that way, too. Once in a while.

                                        Yeah, well, it's just bad 🙂

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                                          Obsolesce @dyasny
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                                          @dyasny said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                          Old, but last that I knew...

                                          https://www.zdnet.com/article/ubuntu-linux-continues-to-rule-the-cloud/

                                          I meant as a platform to build clouds, not as an ephemeral instance. Those aren't bringing any money in to Canonical, no matter how many of them get deployed here and there.

                                          If you look at actual clouds built on Linux, (and really, there aren't many that are not, out there), Ubnutu is definitely very far from being the platform of choice. If you subtract the actually supported and paid for machines in that pool... well, you know what the answer will be

                                          My guess would be RHEL first, then CentOS.

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                                            dyasny @Obsolesce
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                                            @Obsolesce said in IBM looking to acquire RedHat:

                                            My guess would be RHEL first, then CentOS.

                                            The real point is - which of those actually provide revenue to the company building the distribution and the cloud software on top of it 🙂

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