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@scottalanmiller said in Bad Addresses:
I guess the real question is... why did you tighten security to a point that you are unhappy with the results? It's not "security" to send you all these useless emails. So just undo that requirement.
That's probably going to be the plan. Boss tightened up security. I'll investigate to see about turning that one off.
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@nerdydad said in Bad Addresses:
@scottalanmiller said in Bad Addresses:
I guess the real question is... why did you tighten security to a point that you are unhappy with the results? It's not "security" to send you all these useless emails. So just undo that requirement.
That's probably going to be the plan. Boss tightened up security. I'll investigate to see about turning that one off.
That specific one isn't security related. If anything, spamming you with garbage will cause you to ignore real problems.
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FFS @NerdyDad answer the damned question
How are you getting email for accounts that do not exist.
This is not possible and not something that you can get from a security setting.
You are spinning in fucking circles here because you have not answered a basic question.
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So I got Fox'd.
Let me draw you a picture.
Employee is on-boarded with the company and is assigned an email address. Employee begins work and uses email address for (I hope) signing up for industry newsletters, email alerts, etc. Something happens to said employee and they leave. Email account stays open and emails are forwarded to superior until superior can notify other parties of employee's departure. Then said superior tells us to pull the license from O365, which deletes the now ex-employees account. Said superior fails to unsubscribe from email lists and other alerts and we get alerts from the Exchange Online server saying that it has an email going to an address but doesn't have an account to match that address.
Question is: How do I get the notification emails to stop?
I suppose I could create aliases for all of these addresses to my account and slowly unsubscribe from each one.
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@nerdydad said in Bad Addresses:
... and we get alerts from the Exchange Online server saying that it has an email going to an address but doesn't have an account to match that address.
This is the part we don't understand. This is not normal.
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@nerdydad said in Bad Addresses:
So I got Fox'd.
Let me draw you a picture.
Employee is on-boarded with the company and is assigned an email address. Employee begins work and uses email address for (I hope) signing up for industry newsletters, email alerts, etc. Something happens to said employee and they leave. Email account stays open and emails are forwarded to superior until superior can notify other parties of employee's departure. Then said superior tells us to pull the license from O365, which deletes the now ex-employees account. Said superior fails to unsubscribe from email lists and other alerts and we get alerts from the Exchange Online server saying that it has an email going to an address but doesn't have an account to match that address.
Question is: How do I get the notification emails to stop?
I suppose I could create aliases for all of these addresses to my account and slowly unsubscribe from each one.
Re-create the user account, assign an Office 365 license for the interim. Perform password resets under the ex-users account and opt-out of everything.
Revoke the Office 365 license once done.
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@nerdydad said in Bad Addresses:
I suppose I could create aliases for all of these addresses to my account and slowly unsubscribe from each one.
You should not be receiving any notification about this. How are these getting to you in the first place? The rest of us do this every day and don't get these emails. What if they were emails to random accounts that had never existed at all? We get that millions of times a day, but don't see them as they never get sent to people.
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@dustinb3403 said in Bad Addresses:
@nerdydad said in Bad Addresses:
So I got Fox'd.
Let me draw you a picture.
Employee is on-boarded with the company and is assigned an email address. Employee begins work and uses email address for (I hope) signing up for industry newsletters, email alerts, etc. Something happens to said employee and they leave. Email account stays open and emails are forwarded to superior until superior can notify other parties of employee's departure. Then said superior tells us to pull the license from O365, which deletes the now ex-employees account. Said superior fails to unsubscribe from email lists and other alerts and we get alerts from the Exchange Online server saying that it has an email going to an address but doesn't have an account to match that address.
Question is: How do I get the notification emails to stop?
I suppose I could create aliases for all of these addresses to my account and slowly unsubscribe from each one.
Re-create the user account, assign an Office 365 license for the interim. Perform password resets under the ex-users account and opt-out of everything.
Revoke the Office 365 license once done.
That will not work, as the issue is that he is receiving the catch-all.
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@scottalanmiller said in Bad Addresses:
@nerdydad said in Bad Addresses:
I suppose I could create aliases for all of these addresses to my account and slowly unsubscribe from each one.
You should not be receiving any notification about this. How are these getting to you in the first place? The rest of us do this every day and don't get these emails. What if they were emails to random accounts that had never existed at all? We get that millions of times a day, but don't see them as they never get sent to people.
He is getting NDR notifications on the admin side. There is a report somewhere in there that shows bounced emails.
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@scottalanmiller said in Bad Addresses:
@dustinb3403 said in Bad Addresses:
@nerdydad said in Bad Addresses:
So I got Fox'd.
Let me draw you a picture.
Employee is on-boarded with the company and is assigned an email address. Employee begins work and uses email address for (I hope) signing up for industry newsletters, email alerts, etc. Something happens to said employee and they leave. Email account stays open and emails are forwarded to superior until superior can notify other parties of employee's departure. Then said superior tells us to pull the license from O365, which deletes the now ex-employees account. Said superior fails to unsubscribe from email lists and other alerts and we get alerts from the Exchange Online server saying that it has an email going to an address but doesn't have an account to match that address.
Question is: How do I get the notification emails to stop?
I suppose I could create aliases for all of these addresses to my account and slowly unsubscribe from each one.
Re-create the user account, assign an Office 365 license for the interim. Perform password resets under the ex-users account and opt-out of everything.
Revoke the Office 365 license once done.
That will not work, as the issue is that he is receiving the catch-all.
He needs to login to the services that are assigned to the ex-user as that user, and disable the account notifications.
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@dustinb3403 said in Bad Addresses:
@scottalanmiller said in Bad Addresses:
@dustinb3403 said in Bad Addresses:
@nerdydad said in Bad Addresses:
So I got Fox'd.
Let me draw you a picture.
Employee is on-boarded with the company and is assigned an email address. Employee begins work and uses email address for (I hope) signing up for industry newsletters, email alerts, etc. Something happens to said employee and they leave. Email account stays open and emails are forwarded to superior until superior can notify other parties of employee's departure. Then said superior tells us to pull the license from O365, which deletes the now ex-employees account. Said superior fails to unsubscribe from email lists and other alerts and we get alerts from the Exchange Online server saying that it has an email going to an address but doesn't have an account to match that address.
Question is: How do I get the notification emails to stop?
I suppose I could create aliases for all of these addresses to my account and slowly unsubscribe from each one.
Re-create the user account, assign an Office 365 license for the interim. Perform password resets under the ex-users account and opt-out of everything.
Revoke the Office 365 license once done.
That will not work, as the issue is that he is receiving the catch-all.
He needs to login to the services that are assigned to the ex-user as that user, and disable the account notifications.
But none should be assigned to them, they don't exist.
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Scott, just sent you one of the reports that I have been receiving for better clarification.
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@scottalanmiller said in Bad Addresses:
@dustinb3403 said in Bad Addresses:
@scottalanmiller said in Bad Addresses:
@dustinb3403 said in Bad Addresses:
@nerdydad said in Bad Addresses:
So I got Fox'd.
Let me draw you a picture.
Employee is on-boarded with the company and is assigned an email address. Employee begins work and uses email address for (I hope) signing up for industry newsletters, email alerts, etc. Something happens to said employee and they leave. Email account stays open and emails are forwarded to superior until superior can notify other parties of employee's departure. Then said superior tells us to pull the license from O365, which deletes the now ex-employees account. Said superior fails to unsubscribe from email lists and other alerts and we get alerts from the Exchange Online server saying that it has an email going to an address but doesn't have an account to match that address.
Question is: How do I get the notification emails to stop?
I suppose I could create aliases for all of these addresses to my account and slowly unsubscribe from each one.
Re-create the user account, assign an Office 365 license for the interim. Perform password resets under the ex-users account and opt-out of everything.
Revoke the Office 365 license once done.
That will not work, as the issue is that he is receiving the catch-all.
He needs to login to the services that are assigned to the ex-user as that user, and disable the account notifications.
But none should be assigned to them, they don't exist.
They don't exist in Office 365. The user account still exist on "stupidemailalerts.com" or whatever service they have signed up for.
Closing the account in office 365 doesn't remove the user from the things they opt'd/signed up for when they did exist.
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@dustinb3403 said in Bad Addresses:
@scottalanmiller said in Bad Addresses:
@dustinb3403 said in Bad Addresses:
@scottalanmiller said in Bad Addresses:
@dustinb3403 said in Bad Addresses:
@nerdydad said in Bad Addresses:
So I got Fox'd.
Let me draw you a picture.
Employee is on-boarded with the company and is assigned an email address. Employee begins work and uses email address for (I hope) signing up for industry newsletters, email alerts, etc. Something happens to said employee and they leave. Email account stays open and emails are forwarded to superior until superior can notify other parties of employee's departure. Then said superior tells us to pull the license from O365, which deletes the now ex-employees account. Said superior fails to unsubscribe from email lists and other alerts and we get alerts from the Exchange Online server saying that it has an email going to an address but doesn't have an account to match that address.
Question is: How do I get the notification emails to stop?
I suppose I could create aliases for all of these addresses to my account and slowly unsubscribe from each one.
Re-create the user account, assign an Office 365 license for the interim. Perform password resets under the ex-users account and opt-out of everything.
Revoke the Office 365 license once done.
That will not work, as the issue is that he is receiving the catch-all.
He needs to login to the services that are assigned to the ex-user as that user, and disable the account notifications.
But none should be assigned to them, they don't exist.
They don't exist in Office 365. The user account still exist on "stupidemailalerts.com" or whatever service they have signed up for.
Closing the account in office 365 doesn't remove the user from the things they opt'd into when they did exist.
Right, so if the issue is something external, then changing that cannot fix teh problem. You are trying to bandaid, rather than addressing the issue. No matter how many legit or spam systems send those accounts emails, ND should never receive a thing.
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@dustinb3403 said in Bad Addresses:
Closing the account in office 365 doesn't remove the user from the things they opt'd/signed up for when they did exist.
Of course not, but it always has nothing to do with the issue.
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@scottalanmiller you are missing the point, as an admin he is getting bounce notifications for emails that are coming into his domain, from domains that are validated.
He can't stop these notifications, he can only actively go and close out the services that ex-employees have signed up for to stop receiving these.
Otherwise, that service will just keep spamming the now deleted email account. Because that service provider has no insight to what accounts exist in his domain, just that this account did exist at one time.
The service provider will never go through and delete addresses that they are getting bounce backs for. . . it's up the the email admin to do this.
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@dustinb3403 said in Bad Addresses:
He can't stop these notifications, he can only actively go and close out the services that ex-employees have signed up for to stop receiving these.
Why can't he stop them? None of the rest of us have these issues.
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@dustinb3403 said in Bad Addresses:
Otherwise, that service will just keep spamming the now deleted email account. Because that service provider has no insight to what accounts exist in his domain, just that this account did exist at one time.
The service provider will never go through and delete addresses that they are getting bounce backs for. . . it's up the the email admin to do this.
Right, and they should blackhole like normal and affect no one.
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@scottalanmiller said in Bad Addresses:
@dustinb3403 said in Bad Addresses:
He can't stop these notifications, he can only actively go and close out the services that ex-employees have signed up for to stop receiving these.
Why can't he stop them? None of the rest of us have these issues.
Because Microsoft likes to provide reports that piss off sane people.
