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Dashrender

Something important to me is the ability to remotely control the GUI (specifically using ScreenConnect).

Dashrender

What does "spin" mean?

scottalanmiller

What does "spin" mean?

Each alternative desktop installer is called a "spin". These are the full official ISOs for the different desktop environments. So if you get a "spin", everything is set up for you. If you install the desktop components yourself, you are left to do it all on your own.

It's the same thing, but with a name, that Ubuntu does with having Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and so forth for their "spins".

https://spins.fedoraproject.org/

scottalanmiller

Here is the spin that you want...

https://spins.fedoraproject.org/en/lxqt/

Dashrender

Thanks I was just going to post that.. found the info and already downloading.

JaredBusch

Do you hate Cinnamon or something?

scottalanmiller

@jaredbusch said in switch DEs:

Do you hate Cinnamon or something?

Cinnamon doesn't work with things like ScreenConnect due to using GTK3 under the hood.

JaredBusch

@scottalanmiller said in switch DEs:

@jaredbusch said in switch DEs:

Do you hate Cinnamon or something?

Cinnamon doesn't work with things like ScreenConnect due to using GTK3 under the hood.

This is flat not true. I use Fedora with Cinnamon and use ScreenConnect all the time.

JaredBusch

Here is me using ScreenConnect on my Fedora 27 Cinnamon Desktop to connect to my Fedora 27 Cinnamon Laptop.
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scottalanmiller

@jaredbusch said in switch DEs:

@scottalanmiller said in switch DEs:

@jaredbusch said in switch DEs:

Do you hate Cinnamon or something?

Cinnamon doesn't work with things like ScreenConnect due to using GTK3 under the hood.

This is flat not true. I use Fedora with Cinnamon and use ScreenConnect all the time.

Cinnamon works now? Does Gnome 3 work now then, too?

black3dynamite

@scottalanmiller said in switch DEs:

@jaredbusch said in switch DEs:

@scottalanmiller said in switch DEs:

@jaredbusch said in switch DEs:

Do you hate Cinnamon or something?

Cinnamon doesn't work with things like ScreenConnect due to using GTK3 under the hood.

This is flat not true. I use Fedora with Cinnamon and use ScreenConnect all the time.

Cinnamon works now? Does Gnome 3 work now then, too?

Gnome 3 using Wayland is probably the issue. Anyone tried Gnome 3 using Xorg with ScreenConnect?

Obsolesce

So what exactly is so hard about installing a DE?

At one time i had Gnome, KDE, xfce, and Mate installed and working at the same time. You just choose the one you want at login and it remembers.

You would do something similar to this:

dnf group install "MATE Desktop"

dnf group install "Fedora Workstation"

dnf group install "mate-desktop"

I don't remember exactly what they are anymore because I've settled on Gnome a while ago.

But it worked for me just fine.

black3dynamite

You can also install Deepin Desktop Environment on Fedora
https://bbs.deepin.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=134393

sudo dnf install http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/$(rpm -E %fedora)/Everything/$(uname -i)/os/Packages/r/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora)-1.noarch.rpm
sudo dnf copr enable mosquito/deepin
sudo dnf update
sudo dnf install deepin-desktop deepin-session-ui deepin-launcher deepin-screenshot deepin-terminal
sudo systemctl disable gdm.service && sudo systemctl enable lightdm.service
sudo sed -i "/SELINUX=/s|enforcing|disabled|" /etc/selinux/config

Sucks that that you would disable SELINUX to use it.

scottalanmiller

@black3dynamite said in switch DEs:

You can also install Deepin Desktop Environment on Fedora
https://bbs.deepin.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=134393

sudo dnf install http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/$(rpm -E %fedora)/Everything/$(uname -i)/os/Packages/r/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora)-1.noarch.rpm
sudo dnf copr enable mosquito/deepin
sudo dnf update
sudo dnf install deepin-desktop deepin-session-ui deepin-launcher deepin-screenshot deepin-terminal
sudo systemctl disable gdm.service && sudo systemctl enable lightdm.service
sudo sed -i "/SELINUX=/s|enforcing|disabled|" /etc/selinux/config

Sucks that that you would disable SELINUX to use it.

It's not made for SELinux based systems.

scottalanmiller

@black3dynamite said in switch DEs:

@scottalanmiller said in switch DEs:

@jaredbusch said in switch DEs:

@scottalanmiller said in switch DEs:

@jaredbusch said in switch DEs:

Do you hate Cinnamon or something?

Cinnamon doesn't work with things like ScreenConnect due to using GTK3 under the hood.

This is flat not true. I use Fedora with Cinnamon and use ScreenConnect all the time.

Cinnamon works now? Does Gnome 3 work now then, too?

Gnome 3 using Wayland is probably the issue. Anyone tried Gnome 3 using Xorg with ScreenConnect?

No, but in theory that'll be the default on Ubuntu 18.04.

JaredBusch

@scottalanmiller said in switch DEs:

@jaredbusch said in switch DEs:

@scottalanmiller said in switch DEs:

@jaredbusch said in switch DEs:

Do you hate Cinnamon or something?

Cinnamon doesn't work with things like ScreenConnect due to using GTK3 under the hood.

This is flat not true. I use Fedora with Cinnamon and use ScreenConnect all the time.

Cinnamon works now? Does Gnome 3 work now then, too?

It has work ever since day 1 of me switching to Linux back in April. Korora 25 Cinnamon then.

stacksofplates

@scottalanmiller said in switch DEs:

@jaredbusch said in switch DEs:

@scottalanmiller said in switch DEs:

@jaredbusch said in switch DEs:

Do you hate Cinnamon or something?

Cinnamon doesn't work with things like ScreenConnect due to using GTK3 under the hood.

This is flat not true. I use Fedora with Cinnamon and use ScreenConnect all the time.

Cinnamon works now? Does Gnome 3 work now then, too?

Are you thinking of X2Go? GNOME 3 and Cinnamon don’t work because they require hardware acceleration and NX3 can’t do that. Only NX4 which is proprietary and owned my NoMachine can leverage it.

stacksofplates

@tim_g said in switch DEs:

So what exactly is so hard about installing a DE?

At one time i had Gnome, KDE, xfce, and Mate installed and working at the same time. You just choose the one you want at login and it remembers.

You would do something similar to this:

dnf group install "MATE Desktop"

dnf group install "Fedora Workstation"

dnf group install "mate-desktop"

I don't remember exactly what they are anymore because I've settled on Gnome a while ago.

But it worked for me just fine.

Nothing is hard but it’s never the same as if a team specifically built everything to work from the get go. I have i3 set up on my laptops along with GNOME. But there are always little quirks if you add them on later.