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    Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets

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    • dbeatoD
      dbeato @momurda
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      @momurda said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

      Isnt this 10s of millions of computers affected? I think just about every single pc and server on my network is on this list:

      6th, 7th and 8th Generation Intel Core processors
      Intel Xeon E3-1200 v5 and v6 processors
      Intel Xeon Scalable processors
      Intel Xeon W processors
      Intel Atom C3000 processors
      Apollo Lake Intel Atom E3900 series
      Apollo Lake Intel Pentiums
      Celeron N and J series processors
      

      Yes, that is correct.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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        @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

        Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

        AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

        Time to move everything to ARM.

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        • PenguinWranglerP
          PenguinWrangler @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

          @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

          Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

          AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

          Time to move everything to ARM.

          This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @PenguinWrangler
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            @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

            AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

            Time to move everything to ARM.

            This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

            No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

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            • PenguinWranglerP
              PenguinWrangler @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

              @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

              @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

              @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

              @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

              Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

              AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

              Time to move everything to ARM.

              This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

              No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

              I was thinking more bold business moves. There are things they could do that would really help make that happen. It would take their leadership to act boldly and take risk.

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                Time to move everything to ARM.

                This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                  @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                  AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                  Time to move everything to ARM.

                  This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                  No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                  The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                  For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @momurda
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                    @momurda said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    Isnt this 10s of millions of computers affected? I think just about every single pc and server on my network is on this list:

                    6th, 7th and 8th Generation Intel Core processors
                    Intel Xeon E3-1200 v5 and v6 processors
                    Intel Xeon Scalable processors
                    Intel Xeon W processors
                    Intel Atom C3000 processors
                    Apollo Lake Intel Atom E3900 series
                    Apollo Lake Intel Pentiums
                    Celeron N and J series processors
                    

                    huh, I think that means less than half my machines are on that list.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                      AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                      Time to move everything to ARM.

                      This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                      No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                      The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                      For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

                      exactly!

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                        @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                        @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                        @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                        Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                        AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                        Time to move everything to ARM.

                        This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                        No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                        The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                        For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

                        Yeah, for some reason, I don't think we need those 64 core CPUs for a desktop!

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                          @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                          AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                          Time to move everything to ARM.

                          This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                          No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                          The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                          For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

                          Yeah, for some reason, I don't think we need those 64 core CPUs for a desktop!

                          It's octocore, 8GB machines.

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                          • S
                            StorageNinja Vendor @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller There are ARM servers that can do 240Gbps of network throughput for NFV. Don't think the mobile stuff is all that exists....

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                              StorageNinja Vendor @StorageNinja
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                              @storageninja

                              ARM also attacking HPC.

                              Isam_bench1.png

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @StorageNinja
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                                @storageninja said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                @storageninja

                                ARM also attacking HPC.

                                Isam_bench1.png

                                HPC is an awesome use for ARM. A big thing is getting the software companies to catch up.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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                                  @storageninja said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                  @scottalanmiller There are ARM servers that can do 240Gbps of network throughput for NFV. Don't think the mobile stuff is all that exists....

                                  Right, like I keep saying, just need people to build desktops, don't need anything from ARM.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    Here is a program Intel put together to tell you if you are vulnerable to this and several other security flaws they have found.

                                    https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27150

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                      @dashrender said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                      Here is a program Intel put together to tell you if you are vulnerable to this and several other security flaws they have found.

                                      https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27150

                                      But be warned, it's written by a company known to not understand security or be concerned about its customers. So...

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