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    Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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      @wrx7m said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

      I had no idea that this was a thing! Interesting.

      Oh yeah, biggest news in Microsoft databases in years. They've been touting it for over a year now. Huge news. Really changes their database game, assuming that it works well. Way easier to install on Linux than on Windows, which is awesome.

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      • wrx7mW
        wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

        @wrx7m said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

        I had no idea that this was a thing! Interesting.

        Oh yeah, biggest news in Microsoft databases in years. They've been touting it for over a year now. Huge news. Really changes their database game, assuming that it works well. Way easier to install on Linux than on Windows, which is awesome.

        Wow. Easier is almost always better.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

          Way easier to install on Linux than on Windows, which is awesome.

          It's a bear to install on Windows. I'm amazed Microsoft isn't investing in a package manager-esque system or at least getting their devs to work on Chocolately.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

            @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

            Way easier to install on Linux than on Windows, which is awesome.

            It's a bear to install on Windows. I'm amazed Microsoft isn't investing in a package manager-esque system or at least getting their devs to work on Chocolately.

            Even MS doesn't prioritize Windows.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @wrx7m
              last edited by

              @wrx7m said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

              @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

              @wrx7m said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

              I had no idea that this was a thing! Interesting.

              Oh yeah, biggest news in Microsoft databases in years. They've been touting it for over a year now. Huge news. Really changes their database game, assuming that it works well. Way easier to install on Linux than on Windows, which is awesome.

              Wow. Easier is almost always better.

              Yup, well the database world has always been a UNIX one. Sybase, that MS SQL Server is forked from, is a UNIX product, too. Has always run better there. And now that Windows doesn't "go big" any longer, moving SQL Server to Linux is its only path to giant RISC enterprise scale database servers that they need for giant relational database systems. Once Windows dropped IA64 support, they were screwed for MS SQL Server being taken seriously by large shops. Now they can play in that space again.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                So, my personal feeling, is that the Linux port of SQL Server will be the main one in no time. MS needs it to be every bit on par or better than the Windows version.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                  So, my personal feeling, is that the Linux port of SQL Server will be the main one in no time. MS needs it to be every bit on par or better than the Windows version.

                  Shouldn't be too difficult. I'll be interested to see if SQL Manager works with this version.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                    So, my personal feeling, is that the Linux port of SQL Server will be the main one in no time. MS needs it to be every bit on par or better than the Windows version.

                    Shouldn't be too difficult. I'll be interested to see if SQL Manager works with this version.

                    It does, and is available on Linux, too. It has to or nothing work work as it works through the singular connection. This isn't a different "version" of SQL Server, it is just deployed to Linux. It's full SQL Server and works with all tools.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                      @coliver said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                      So, my personal feeling, is that the Linux port of SQL Server will be the main one in no time. MS needs it to be every bit on par or better than the Windows version.

                      Shouldn't be too difficult. I'll be interested to see if SQL Manager works with this version.

                      It does, and is available on Linux, too. It has to or nothing work work as it works through the singular connection. This isn't a different "version" of SQL Server, it is just deployed to Linux. It's full SQL Server and works with all tools.

                      Good to know.

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                      • AdamFA
                        AdamF
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                        I was waiting for this release. I know a few developers who can’t wait to try this. Looks like I need to spin this up.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @AdamF
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                          @fuznutz04 said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                          I was waiting for this release. I know a few developers who can’t wait to try this. Looks like I need to spin this up.

                          I have been eagerly anticipating it myself as we have some MS SQL based stuff that I can potentially move now

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                          • hobbit666H
                            hobbit666
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                            This is cool, don't think management here would go for it. Too much of a M$ fanboy lol

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @hobbit666
                              last edited by

                              @hobbit666 said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                              This is cool, don't think management here would go for it. Too much of a M$ fanboy lol

                              Just tell them that this is MS' big play for SQL Server. True fanbois would just on it 😉

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by JaredBusch

                                @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                                After that it is up and running. Worth noting, you will need 4GB of RAM to even fire up the process, which is a tad excessive when you consider that you can run its competition in production with far less RAM than that.

                                Current docs show only 2GB required. I built the VM with 3GB and 2 vCPU.

                                @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                                And only XFS and EXT4 filesystems are supported. That means no ZFS, no BtrFS, no JFS2, etc.

                                Who cares?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                                  After that it is up and running. Worth noting, you will need 4GB of RAM to even fire up the process, which is a tad excessive when you consider that you can run its competition in production with far less RAM than that.

                                  Current docs show only 2GB required. I built the VM with 3GB and 2 vCPU.

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                                  And only XFS and EXT4 filesystems are supported. That means no ZFS, no BtrFS, no JFS2, etc.

                                  Who cares?

                                  A lot of people, especially on places like FreeNAS forums or 🌶 tend to be very "anti" traditional solid filesystems and are religiously addicted to ZFS and BtrFS or ReFS style filesystems.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by JaredBusch

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                                    After that it is up and running. Worth noting, you will need 4GB of RAM to even fire up the process, which is a tad excessive when you consider that you can run its competition in production with far less RAM than that.

                                    Current docs show only 2GB required. I built the VM with 3GB and 2 vCPU.

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                                    And only XFS and EXT4 filesystems are supported. That means no ZFS, no BtrFS, no JFS2, etc.

                                    Who cares?

                                    A lot of people, especially on places like FreeNAS forums or 🌶 tend to be very "anti" traditional solid filesystems and are religiously addicted to ZFS and BtrFS or ReFS style filesystems.

                                    I don't care about stupid. Everything RHEL/Fedora defaults to XFS.

                                    No idea what Debian 9 or Ubuntu default to.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                                      After that it is up and running. Worth noting, you will need 4GB of RAM to even fire up the process, which is a tad excessive when you consider that you can run its competition in production with far less RAM than that.

                                      Current docs show only 2GB required. I built the VM with 3GB and 2 vCPU.

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Installing MS SQL Server 2017 Express on CentOS 7.4:

                                      And only XFS and EXT4 filesystems are supported. That means no ZFS, no BtrFS, no JFS2, etc.

                                      Who cares?

                                      A lot of people, especially on places like FreeNAS forums or 🌶 tend to be very "anti" traditional solid filesystems and are religiously addicted to ZFS and BtrFS or ReFS style filesystems.

                                      I don't care about stupid. Everything RHEL/Fedora defaults to XFS.

                                      No idea what Debian 9 or Ubuntu default to.

                                      EXT4

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Just installed on CentOS 7.6 with XFS. Still flawless install.

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