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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      How much emulation is needed if they tried moving to the Linux kernel?

      If they could keep the Windows Explorer GUI on the Linux Kernel... that would be HUGE.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        How much emulation is needed if they tried moving to the Linux kernel?

        If they could keep the Windows Explorer GUI on the Linux Kernel... that would be HUGE.

        Quite a bit, but WINE has already done SO much of that work, and Steam has done most of the rest. So while a lot of work is needed, a lot is potentially already done.

        And MS has always done the opposite, I would be surprised if Windows Explorer on Linux doesn't exist somewhere inside MS.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          I wonder why they'd do it, though. The Windows NT kernel isn't bad.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
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            @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            I personally think they should move over to a linux based MS OS with a compatibility layer for windows software. Just imagine how much less work they would have if they started using the Linux kernel. Not that there is anything bad with the NT based kernel.

            That's true. But I think that the effort on the kernel isn't all that bad and having their own gives them some notoriety and control.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              How much emulation is needed if they tried moving to the Linux kernel?

              If they could keep the Windows Explorer GUI on the Linux Kernel... that would be HUGE.

              Quite a bit, but WINE has already done SO much of that work, and Steam has done most of the rest. So while a lot of work is needed, a lot is potentially already done.

              And MS has always done the opposite, I would be surprised if Windows Explorer on Linux doesn't exist somewhere inside MS.

              This is where I have zero knowledge. I didn't know how much was kernel stuff versus how much was DLL emulation?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                This is where I have zero knowledge. I didn't know how much was kernel stuff versus how much was DLL emulation?

                Wine doesn't emulate, it actually makes the DLL's run on the system as designed (granted often with mixed results).

                W.I.N.E - Wine is not (an) Emulator

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  How much emulation is needed if they tried moving to the Linux kernel?

                  If they could keep the Windows Explorer GUI on the Linux Kernel... that would be HUGE.

                  Quite a bit, but WINE has already done SO much of that work, and Steam has done most of the rest. So while a lot of work is needed, a lot is potentially already done.

                  And MS has always done the opposite, I would be surprised if Windows Explorer on Linux doesn't exist somewhere inside MS.

                  This is where I have zero knowledge. I didn't know how much was kernel stuff versus how much was DLL emulation?

                  DLL is definitely the bulk of it. Kernel emulation tends to not be all that bad. "Tends"....

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    This is where I have zero knowledge. I didn't know how much was kernel stuff versus how much was DLL emulation?

                    Wine doesn't emulate, it actually makes the DLL's run on the system as designed (granted often with mixed results).

                    W.I.N.E - Wine is not (an) Emulator

                    Yeah, I know/knew the acronym mean not emulator, but if it's not an emulator, then what is it doing? is it replacing real DLL calls to replacement DLLs that don't require emulation? or whatever Linux uses instead of DLLs?

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                      last edited by DustinB3403

                      @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      This is where I have zero knowledge. I didn't know how much was kernel stuff versus how much was DLL emulation?

                      Wine doesn't emulate, it actually makes the DLL's run on the system as designed (granted often with mixed results).

                      W.I.N.E - Wine is not (an) Emulator

                      Yeah, I know/knew the acronym mean not emulator, but if it's not an emulator, then what is it doing? is it replacing real DLL calls to replacement DLLs that don't require emulation? or whatever Linux uses instead of DLLs?

                      While a virtual machine or emulator simulates internal Windows logic, Wine translates those Windows logic to native UNIX/POSIX-complaint logic. In simple and non-technical words, Wine converts internal Windows commands to commands your Linux system can natively understand. There are various ways to install Wine on your system.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @dustinb3403 OK so translation instead of emulation... not sure that's really better,

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @dustinb3403 OK so translation instead of emulation... not sure that's really better,

                          I would consider a translation the most one could do, the people who develop WINE don't have the source code for the programs they are getting to work on Linux.

                          And the Linux Kernel doesn't have Windows Source code... so there has to be some translation.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            https://www.techradar.com/news/nearly-all-microsoft-365-customers-have-suffered-email-data-breaches

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                            • CloudKnightC
                              CloudKnight @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller That link not working Scott.

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce @CloudKnight
                                last edited by

                                @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @scottalanmiller That link not working Scott.

                                Likely fake news. Someone writing about something they didn't understand.

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                                • CloudKnightC
                                  CloudKnight @Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  @obsolesce It looks like it's the actual FQDN thats the issue. Dns Issue they are having.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    nearly-all-microsoft-365-customers-have-suffered-email-data-breaches

                                    I googled
                                    nearly-all-microsoft-365-customers-have-suffered-email-data-breaches
                                    and found a link that did work.

                                    and yeah.. less than great article in my opinion.

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                                    • black3dynamiteB
                                      black3dynamite
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                                      https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/05/system76-launch-configurable-keyboard

                                      Youtube Video

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                                      • mlnewsM
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                                        Reminders on rise as WhatsApp update deadline looms

                                        Users yet to accept new terms and conditions for the messaging platform WhatsApp will start to get "persistent" reminders after the 15 May deadline.
                                        The changes relate primarily to the way businesses interact with customers. Since they were announced, in January, there has been concern about the prospect of increased data sharing with WhatsApp's parent company, Facebook, but this will not be changing. Most of the app's two billion users had already accepted, the company said. Those who do not will start to lose functionality - beginning with being unable to see chat lists and ending with not receiving video calls and messages - but no accounts will be deleted.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          New Executive Order mandates Software Bill of Materials, naming open source specifically.

                                          The executive order recognized the vital importance of open-source software. It reads in part: "Within 90 days of publication of the preliminary guidelines … shall issue guidance identifying practices that enhance the security of the software supply chain." Open-source software is specifically named.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
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                                            Security Researcher discovers plan text passwords used for Microsoft rdp

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