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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @coliver
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      @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/28/business/huawei-charges/index.html

      Hmm. One of corporate espionage the other was selling to Iran. Neither of which are similar to what Lenovo had done in the past. Both of them are serious allegations though.

      Serious enough to warrant additional caution before purchasing. Because who honestly knows what else may be occurring that hasn't surfaced.

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      • coliverC
        coliver @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/28/business/huawei-charges/index.html

        Hmm. One of corporate espionage the other was selling to Iran. Neither of which are similar to what Lenovo had done in the past. Both of them are serious allegations though.

        Serious enough to warrant additional caution before purchasing. Because who honestly knows what else may be occurring that hasn't surfaced.

        That's fair.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/28/business/huawei-charges/index.html

          Hmm. One of corporate espionage the other was selling to Iran. Neither of which are similar to what Lenovo had done in the past. Both of them are serious allegations though.

          Serious enough to warrant additional caution before purchasing. Because who honestly knows what else may be occurring that hasn't surfaced.

          Seems like "our government doesn't like your government" kind of issues, rather than "our companies steals from your company" kinds of problems. It's all about the US beef with Iran, which is really a theater show of what the US is really concerned about. From the sounds of it, Lenovo affects Americans, Huawei affects corrupt government officials. So if you are just an American, it might not matter. If you trying to manipulate world politics for your own gain, then Huawei might not be so good for you.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @coliver
            last edited by Dashrender

            @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/28/business/huawei-charges/index.html

            Hmm. One of corporate espionage the other was selling to Iran. Neither of which are similar to what Lenovo had done in the past. Both of them are serious allegations though.

            Now we have a moral dilemma, Do you choose to support a company that appears to be breaking US law? Does what the law they are breaking really matter? I'm not sure that it should. We don't want to reward them for breaking the law period, right?

            Granted it's US morals - clearly the Chinese morals are different - they don't care about copyright, etc.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/28/business/huawei-charges/index.html

              Hmm. One of corporate espionage the other was selling to Iran. Neither of which are similar to what Lenovo had done in the past. Both of them are serious allegations though.

              Now we have a moral dilemma, Do you choose to support a company that appears to be breaking US law? Does what the law they are breaking really matter? I'm not sure that it should. We don't want to reward them for breaking the law period, right?

              Laws are different from ethics. It used to be legal to have slaves, that didn't make it moral to have slaves, right?

              What the law says and what is ethical are unrelated. Sure, we wish that they were aligned, but they are not. In fact, it's a trivial argument to make that following the law blindly is itself unethical. We have an ethical responsibility that supercedes the law.

              The law defines that for which you can be punished, ethics defines what is "good".

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                Granted it's US morals - clearly the Chinese morals are different - they don't care about copyright, etc.

                It's US laws. Not US morals. I think most Americans find the law unethical, or do so indirectly. Most don't understand how the law works, what it is for, how it impacts out peoples, etc.

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                  marcinozga
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                  https://www.cyberscoop.com/android-malware-china-huawei-zte-kryptowire-blu-products/

                  They got caught shipping malware in their products in the past, so it's not unreasonable to suspect them again. Especially when another high ranking employee gets arrested for espionage: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/huawei-poland-wang-weijing_us_5c3b032ae4b0e0baf53e254b

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato
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                    Veeam Backup & Replication Community Edition
                    https://www.veeam.com/virtual-machine-backup-solution-free.html

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @marcinozga
                      last edited by

                      @marcinozga said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      https://www.cyberscoop.com/android-malware-china-huawei-zte-kryptowire-blu-products/

                      They got caught shipping malware in their products in the past, so it's not unreasonable to suspect them again. Especially when another high ranking employee gets arrested for espionage: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/huawei-poland-wang-weijing_us_5c3b032ae4b0e0baf53e254b

                      Oh I'm not saying it isn't reasonable or that they aren't doing something bad. It's more that we just don't know at this point and the two cases are pretty different. But sure, they might end up being pretty awful.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @dbeato
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                        @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        Veeam Backup & Replication Community Edition
                        https://www.veeam.com/virtual-machine-backup-solution-free.html

                        Wasn’t there a thread for this? Or was it a telegram discussion?

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          Veeam Backup & Replication Community Edition
                          https://www.veeam.com/virtual-machine-backup-solution-free.html

                          Wasn’t there a thread for this? Or was it a telegram discussion?

                          Telegram

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @black3dynamite
                            last edited by

                            @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            Veeam Backup & Replication Community Edition
                            https://www.veeam.com/virtual-machine-backup-solution-free.html

                            Wasn’t there a thread for this? Or was it a telegram discussion?

                            Telegram

                            Ah, well for those curious, the big new thing, aside from the rebranding, is that you get full Veeam functionality for up to 10 VMs. Not just VeeamZip as it has always had.

                            I have not upgraded my free instance yet to test though.

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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              Veeam Backup & Replication Community Edition
                              https://www.veeam.com/virtual-machine-backup-solution-free.html

                              Wasn’t there a thread for this? Or was it a telegram discussion?

                              Telegram

                              Ah, well for those curious, the big new thing, aside from the rebranding, is that you get full Veeam functionality for up to 10 VMs. Not just VeeamZip as it has always had.

                              I have not upgraded my free instance yet to test though.

                              So you start out with unlimited VMs but with limited features unless you are only backing up 10 VMs, you'll get the features of the standard edition?
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                              • black3dynamiteB
                                black3dynamite
                                last edited by

                                Either way, this makes me want to move from Altaro free version of only allowing 2 VMs.

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                                • black3dynamiteB
                                  black3dynamite
                                  last edited by

                                  I'm guessing I'll be getting a contact from Veeam reps because I downloaded their products.

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                                  • black3dynamiteB
                                    black3dynamite
                                    last edited by

                                    Veeam Agent for Linux v3
                                    c8acdb66-aec8-45fa-a201-a9bffffe5b36-image.png

                                    Does the install work correctly on Fedora 29 without doing that fix?

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                                    • dbeatoD
                                      dbeato @black3dynamite
                                      last edited by

                                      @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      I'm guessing I'll be getting a contact from Veeam reps because I downloaded their products.

                                      Oh yeah, they can be a little relentless at times.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        BtrFS support now, nice.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by Dashrender

                                          @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          Veeam Backup & Replication Community Edition
                                          https://www.veeam.com/virtual-machine-backup-solution-free.html

                                          Wasn’t there a thread for this? Or was it a telegram discussion?

                                          Telegram

                                          Ah, well for those curious, the big new thing, aside from the rebranding, is that you get full Veeam functionality for up to 10 VMs. Not just VeeamZip as it has always had.

                                          I have not upgraded my free instance yet to test though.

                                          Holy cats - that's awesome! though unless you can run it from a Linux Distro, it's still no where near free - you need an $800 Windows server license to run it from.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            Anyone ever try running Veeam in WINE?

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