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      anthonyh
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      I'm in the process of re-vamping my home network.

      I'm currently awaiting arrival of a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter PoE and an EnGenius ENS620EXT WAP (will mount it in my attic) and am pretty excited.

      I was planning on re-using the existing Linksys SR2924C unmanaged gigabit switch I have, but I'm realizing that it would be nice to have a managed L2 switch so I can trunk it with the ERPoE-5 and go to VLAN town.

      Any recommendations on a cheap managed L2 gigabit switch? My only requirements are that 1) it be rack mountable and 2) fan-less (or at least near silent operation) as my "network closet" is an AV cabinet in the living room (think built-in cabinet that used to hide a CRT television).

      The existing switch is a 24-porter, but I could easily get away with fewer ports.

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        scottalanmiller
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        Ubiquiti switches, of course!

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          JaredBusch
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          The Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch-LITE is the non PoE model.

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            Dashrender
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            @anthonyh said in Switch Recommendation:

            e nice to have a managed L2 switch so I can trunk it with the ERPoE-5 and go to VLAN town.

            VLAN at home? For a guest network?

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              anthonyh @Dashrender
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              @dashrender said in Switch Recommendation:

              @anthonyh said in Switch Recommendation:

              e nice to have a managed L2 switch so I can trunk it with the ERPoE-5 and go to VLAN town.

              VLAN at home? For a guest network?

              Possibly, but at the moment I'm thinking of something like the following:

              VLAN A - Trusted LAN
              VLAN B - Trusted WLAN
              VLAN C - Untrusted WLAN (for IoT devices like my Samsung refrigerator and/or my Honeywell HVAC thermostat)

              And in the future if I dive down the road of IP based security stuff..

              VLAN D - Security LAN/WLAN

              I could do the WLAN VLANs without replacing the switch. I'd just connect the WAP directly to the ERPoE-5 and trunk 'em.

              I was just thinking if I can find a switch that's within my budget that, eh, why not? 😄

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                R3dPand4
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                Ubiquiti and an honorable mention for Mikrotik. If not just for the fact that they have a 10GBe Switch for $400.

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                  Dashrender
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                  I'm also curious, why not a Unifi AP?

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                    Dashrender @anthonyh
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                    @anthonyh said in Switch Recommendation:

                    @dashrender said in Switch Recommendation:

                    @anthonyh said in Switch Recommendation:

                    e nice to have a managed L2 switch so I can trunk it with the ERPoE-5 and go to VLAN town.

                    VLAN at home? For a guest network?

                    Possibly, but at the moment I'm thinking of something like the following:

                    VLAN A - Trusted LAN
                    VLAN B - Trusted WLAN
                    VLAN C - Untrusted WLAN (for IoT devices like my Samsung refrigerator and/or my Honeywell HVAC thermostat)

                    why split A and B?

                    And in the future if I dive down the road of IP based security stuff..

                    VLAN D - Security LAN/WLAN

                    I could do the WLAN VLANs without replacing the switch. I'd just connect the WAP directly to the ERPoE-5 and trunk 'em.

                    I was just thinking if I can find a switch that's within my budget that, eh, why not? 😄

                    A few small switches each into their own port on the 5 port router might be cheaper than a single large one, but won't fit your rack mount requirement...

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                      anthonyh @Dashrender
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                      @dashrender said in Switch Recommendation:

                      I'm also curious, why not a Unifi AP?

                      Two reasons.

                      1. I didn't want to have to keep track of an instance of the Unifi management software for one (maybe two in the future) APs or be dependent on any sort of cloud management.

                      2. I wanted an outdoor rated AP as my thinking is it might possibly last a little longer being subject to Central California summers up in my attic.

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                        anthonyh @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in Switch Recommendation:

                        @anthonyh said in Switch Recommendation:

                        @dashrender said in Switch Recommendation:

                        @anthonyh said in Switch Recommendation:

                        e nice to have a managed L2 switch so I can trunk it with the ERPoE-5 and go to VLAN town.

                        VLAN at home? For a guest network?

                        Possibly, but at the moment I'm thinking of something like the following:

                        VLAN A - Trusted LAN
                        VLAN B - Trusted WLAN
                        VLAN C - Untrusted WLAN (for IoT devices like my Samsung refrigerator and/or my Honeywell HVAC thermostat)

                        why split A and B?

                        No particular reason. Mostly because I'm a network nerd/geek (whichever is the better of the two) and just like to mess with stuff.

                        And in the future if I dive down the road of IP based security stuff..

                        VLAN D - Security LAN/WLAN

                        I could do the WLAN VLANs without replacing the switch. I'd just connect the WAP directly to the ERPoE-5 and trunk 'em.

                        I was just thinking if I can find a switch that's within my budget that, eh, why not? 😄

                        A few small switches each into their own port on the 5 port router might be cheaper than a single large one, but won't fit your rack mount requirement...

                        Well, I could always buy a shelf if the cost savings is significant. So this is a possibility.

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                          Alex Sage @anthonyh
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                          @anthonyh said in Switch Recommendation:

                          @dashrender said in Switch Recommendation:

                          I'm also curious, why not a Unifi AP?

                          Two reasons.

                          1. I didn't want to have to keep track of an instance of the Unifi management software for one (maybe two in the future) APs or be dependent on any sort of cloud management.

                          2. I wanted an outdoor rated AP as my thinking is it might possibly last a little longer being subject to Central California summers up in my attic.

                          So your not going to use UNMS?

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                            anthonyh @Alex Sage
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                            @aaronstuder said in Switch Recommendation:

                            @anthonyh said in Switch Recommendation:

                            @dashrender said in Switch Recommendation:

                            I'm also curious, why not a Unifi AP?

                            Two reasons.

                            1. I didn't want to have to keep track of an instance of the Unifi management software for one (maybe two in the future) APs or be dependent on any sort of cloud management.

                            2. I wanted an outdoor rated AP as my thinking is it might possibly last a little longer being subject to Central California summers up in my attic.

                            So your not going to use UNMS?

                            Hadn't even heard of it until this post. How does it work?

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                              Alex Sage @anthonyh
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                              @anthonyh https://unms.ubnt.com

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                                JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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                                @aaronstuder said in Switch Recommendation:

                                @anthonyh said in Switch Recommendation:

                                @dashrender said in Switch Recommendation:

                                I'm also curious, why not a Unifi AP?

                                Two reasons.

                                1. I didn't want to have to keep track of an instance of the Unifi management software for one (maybe two in the future) APs or be dependent on any sort of cloud management.

                                2. I wanted an outdoor rated AP as my thinking is it might possibly last a little longer being subject to Central California summers up in my attic.

                                So your not going to use UNMS?

                                UNMS has nothing to do with UniFi or anything in the UniFi line. UNMS is a management platform for the EdgeMax line.

                                Specific to this discussion it is also useless because the EdgeSwitch does not yet support it. It is in development and firmware that supports it is expected in 1Q 2018.

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                                  stacksofplates
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                                  I have an EdgeSwitch Lite and an ERL at home. It's pretty nice. I have a VLAN for the servers, one for the regular wireless and laptops, and one for cameras. It works out really nicely.

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                                    stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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                                    @jaredbusch said in Switch Recommendation:

                                    @aaronstuder said in Switch Recommendation:

                                    @anthonyh said in Switch Recommendation:

                                    @dashrender said in Switch Recommendation:

                                    I'm also curious, why not a Unifi AP?

                                    Two reasons.

                                    1. I didn't want to have to keep track of an instance of the Unifi management software for one (maybe two in the future) APs or be dependent on any sort of cloud management.

                                    2. I wanted an outdoor rated AP as my thinking is it might possibly last a little longer being subject to Central California summers up in my attic.

                                    So your not going to use UNMS?

                                    UNMS has nothing to do with UniFi or anything in the UniFi line. UNMS is a management platform for the EdgeMax line.

                                    Specific to this discussion it is also useless because the EdgeSwitch does not yet support it. It is in development and firmware that supports it is expected in 1Q 2018.

                                    Switch support will be awesome. I'll be happy when they fully finish the current one (firewall and whatever else).

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                                      Alex Sage @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch

                                      We invite you to use our new free Ubiquiti Network Management System. You can simply configure, monitor, upgrade, and back up your UBNT devices. Add your routers and switches. You can include your wireless equipment and optical GPON devices as well. And why stop there. You can even manage your client APs with ease. Management of all devices in a single application: UNMS.

                                      So what AP’s are they talking about?

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                                        JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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                                        @aaronstuder said in Switch Recommendation:

                                        @JaredBusch

                                        We invite you to use our new free Ubiquiti Network Management System. You can simply configure, monitor, upgrade, and back up your UBNT devices. Add your routers and switches. You can include your wireless equipment and optical GPON devices as well. And why stop there. You can even manage your client APs with ease. Management of all devices in a single application: UNMS.

                                        So what AP’s are they talking about?

                                        The airMAX line of course, because it is networking gear.

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                                          JaredBusch
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                                          Eventually, they have said that you will be able to connect UniFi gear as endpoints. But there is no date on that last I read.

                                          Edit: Looks like Q1 2018

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