Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions
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@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@penguinwrangler said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
I like the Edge Routers and switches. I like the Unifi Wireless points. I do not like the USG. So I have to have the UNMS and an Unifi Controller. I wish they would bring these under the same umbrella. Jared does the UNMS work with the tough switches?
Why should these be under the same thing? They are different solutions.
I get that. It just adds to the list of interfaces I have to deal with. If you could somehow link your UNMS and your Unifi Controller so you can easily swap between the two without having to log into more than one page.
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@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@gjacobse said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@jaredbusch
Did you run your UNMS on the same system you had your UBNT WiFI controller? or did you build a new instance?separate instance of course. never mix workloads.
I can understnad that... give me more practice ... Thanks.
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@gjacobse said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@gjacobse said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@jaredbusch
Did you run your UNMS on the same system you had your UBNT WiFI controller? or did you build a new instance?separate instance of course. never mix workloads.
I can understnad that... give me more practice ... Thanks.
I am using Debian 9 for both now. Guides coming.
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@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@gjacobse said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@gjacobse said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@jaredbusch
Did you run your UNMS on the same system you had your UBNT WiFI controller? or did you build a new instance?separate instance of course. never mix workloads.
I can understnad that... give me more practice ... Thanks.
I am using Debian 9 for both now. Guides coming.
Awesome - I do recall seeing your mention of Debian 9.1 - Looking forward to it.
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@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@penguinwrangler said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
I like the Edge Routers and switches. I like the Unifi Wireless points. I do not like the USG. So I have to have the UNMS and an Unifi Controller. I wish they would bring these under the same umbrella. Jared does the UNMS work with the tough switches?
Why should these be under the same thing? They are different solutions.
This is the part I don't understand - what are the different solutions they are going for with each side? UNMS is solving the single pane management issue for EdgeMax stuff, so it's a Unifi Controller for EdgeMax - again - why is there a split?
Plus there is no WiFi on the EdgeMax side. -
@dashrender said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@penguinwrangler said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
I like the Edge Routers and switches. I like the Unifi Wireless points. I do not like the USG. So I have to have the UNMS and an Unifi Controller. I wish they would bring these under the same umbrella. Jared does the UNMS work with the tough switches?
Why should these be under the same thing? They are different solutions.
This is the part I don't understand - what are the different solutions they are going for with each side? UNMS is solving the single pane management issue for EdgeMax stuff, so it's a Unifi Controller for EdgeMax - again - why is there a split?
Plus there is no WiFi on the EdgeMax side.I'm with Dash on this one. I'm wanting to pair up an ER-X with a UAP, but needs 2 different applications to configure each of these.
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@penguinwrangler said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@penguinwrangler said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
I like the Edge Routers and switches. I like the Unifi Wireless points. I do not like the USG. So I have to have the UNMS and an Unifi Controller. I wish they would bring these under the same umbrella. Jared does the UNMS work with the tough switches?
Why should these be under the same thing? They are different solutions.
I get that. It just adds to the list of interfaces I have to deal with. If you could somehow link your UNMS and your Unifi Controller so you can easily swap between the two without having to log into more than one page.
The reason to not do this is most cost. It's why I'd like to see a unified solution for both, or just make the USG more accessable (it has the same functions as the ER series, but a lot of it has to be done though config files, the CLI is overwritten by the config files on refresh from the controller).
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@dashrender said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@penguinwrangler said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
I like the Edge Routers and switches. I like the Unifi Wireless points. I do not like the USG. So I have to have the UNMS and an Unifi Controller. I wish they would bring these under the same umbrella. Jared does the UNMS work with the tough switches?
Why should these be under the same thing? They are different solutions.
This is the part I don't understand - what are the different solutions they are going for with each side? UNMS is solving the single pane management issue for EdgeMax stuff, so it's a Unifi Controller for EdgeMax - again - why is there a split?
Plus there is no WiFi on the EdgeMax side.It is not a controller. it is a management system.
That said, they seem to be planning to implement UniFi controller settings into eventually. But for now, it does not manage UniFi.
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@nerdydad said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@dashrender said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@penguinwrangler said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
I like the Edge Routers and switches. I like the Unifi Wireless points. I do not like the USG. So I have to have the UNMS and an Unifi Controller. I wish they would bring these under the same umbrella. Jared does the UNMS work with the tough switches?
Why should these be under the same thing? They are different solutions.
This is the part I don't understand - what are the different solutions they are going for with each side? UNMS is solving the single pane management issue for EdgeMax stuff, so it's a Unifi Controller for EdgeMax - again - why is there a split?
Plus there is no WiFi on the EdgeMax side.I'm with Dash on this one. I'm wanting to pair up an ER-X with a UAP, but needs 2 different applications to configure each of these.
Well, if you only have one ER-X, then you should manage it directly, and skip the UNMS as it's overhead you simply don't need.
JB supports a dozen or more ER boxes, so UNMS makes his life easier.
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@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
It is not a controller. it is a management system.
I'm sorry, what's the difference?
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Thanks for taking the time to provide those detailed screenshots.
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@dashrender said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
It is not a controller. it is a management system.
I'm sorry, what's the difference?
As @Kyle-Caminita said offline, it is ISP Network equipment monitor/management.
Just like the hardware is enterprise grade. This is an enterprise grade management system.
Just free.
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@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@dashrender said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
It is not a controller. it is a management system.
I'm sorry, what's the difference?
As @Kyle-Caminita said offline, it is ISP Network equipment monitor/management.
Just like the hardware is enterprise grade. This is an enterprise grade management system.
Just free.
This.
UNMS pretty much will monitor and manage the "carrier (ISP)" side of UBNT equipment. When said and done you should be able to make changes and have UNMS push them out; however, I do not believe there is the intent to hold the end device in a state.
UniFi Controller is just that, the brain and management for the UniFi "enterprise" line of products. The UniFi items have limited brain power and must be configured remote. Obviously you can do CLI and local config hacks but they are just that hacks.
If using everything in an enterprise you get some separation of responsibility for the systems. A single role can't configure the finance VLAN from router to access point. Now, if you carry multiple roles as is common in SMB that doesn't much matter.
edit: words and things
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I have the biggest client routers in now.
Liking what I see.
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Was not even aware of this and not sure I would have bought a home Unifi router had I known. Downloading now...
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@bigbear said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
Was not even aware of this and not sure I would have bought a home Unifi router had I known. Downloading now...
The ability for the routers to do this was just added to non beta firmware last week.
UNMS itself is still beta.
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Is UNMS supposed to be replacing airControl? Because that is the feeling that I am getting from their site.
https://www.ubnt.com/software/
It looks like UNMS has similar features plus others, which leads me to believe that UNMS is going to replace airControl.
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It doesn't support Toughswitches yet, no support for NVR or cameras, no support for Mfi devices. I wish it would replace Unifi controller too. At the moment it only picked up 2 nano stations, so just too limited for me. Perhaps in the future they add additional devices, firmware upgrades alone across the board would be huge.
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@marcinozga said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
It doesn't support Toughswitches yet, no support for NVR or cameras, no support for Mfi devices. I wish it would replace Unifi controller too. At the moment it only picked up 2 nano stations, so just too limited for me. Perhaps in the future they add additional devices, firmware upgrades alone across the board would be huge.
Isnt mFi pretty much dead? Really sucks too but I think on ubnt forums the pressed and got leadership to admit they abandoned it in the vine...
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@bigbear said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
@marcinozga said in Ubiquiti UNMS - First impressions:
It doesn't support Toughswitches yet, no support for NVR or cameras, no support for Mfi devices. I wish it would replace Unifi controller too. At the moment it only picked up 2 nano stations, so just too limited for me. Perhaps in the future they add additional devices, firmware upgrades alone across the board would be huge.
Isnt mFi pretty much dead? Really sucks too but I think on ubnt forums the pressed and got leadership to admit they abandoned it in the vine...
I believe that is correct. It was in one of the threads about the ancient vulnerability in them not getting patched or something like that.
