3D PDF - Anyone Heard of This?
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@Dashrender I understand your concern. But the way I understand the technology right now is that all its allowing you do do is see geometry in 3D space. You can't actually do a whole lot of anything with it other than get representations and other CAD related info. Not quite the same thing as a static picture embedded into a PDF.
Right now I think a lot of the auto industry and their suppliers are going to be the primary benefactors of this tech.
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@bill-kindle all it's allowing you to do, is allow virus writers to incorporate java-script and other programs that can take over your computer.
I understand that Adobe is trying to be the single interface for anything you might view on your computer, but the risk is really just to great.
If you're a company that needs to view 3D images and see geometry, you most likely already have free viewers for the products that produce the image files in the first place.
Ultimately it's not that I don't want a single product that does it all, that would be great - But Reader has more security holes than Carter has little liver pills. it's as bad or worse than Java.
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@Dashrender Not with the level of detail that the product I'm testing allows for. Adobe however was not the company that developed this tech, they bought the company that did develop it.
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More technical info here for anyone interested in this technology:
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what cad software is this from, we use autocad and i would love to have this. This would stop me from loading design view on everyones computer just so they can view the stupid 3d files.
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@david.wiese said:
what cad software is this from, we use autocad and i would love to have this. This would stop me from loading design view on everyones computer just so they can view the stupid 3d files.
well the original link is something the company I work for is developing and will be releasing soon, I believe I captured some CATIA v5 data with that translator. The Tetra 4D company actually has a add-on to Adobe that pulls the data in to create the document.
The company I work for is primarily working with NX, CATIA, JT, and PTC/WindChill.
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NX as in NoMachine?
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@scottalanmiller said:
NX as in NoMachine?
No, Siemens NX (used to be called Unigraphics or UGNX). Out of all the CAD platforms I've been introduced to this is my favorite, and if I were a designer, I would prefer NX.
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I have seen 3D PDF's before. I used to work for a General Contractor and one of the Architectural firms used 3D models all the time. Layer support in PDF's is also pretty neat since you can Add and Remove layers from the PDF for easy viewing. Side note, Autodesk (The makers of Autocad) offer a free cad file viewer witch also allows for markups and measurements.
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Bluebeam as shown above has just as much power..
Love pulling models apart via 3D PDF... Will upload a snowmobile example or enviorodome cad examples. Makes it really awesome with BB doing markups & callouts...
Bb vu is much lighter than cads viewers and dont have to Hunt down xrefs shx fonts and all the other things engineers won't send along with files
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@BC said:
Bluebeam as shown above has just as much power..
Love pulling models apart via 3D PDF... Will upload a snowmobile example or enviorodome cad examples. Makes it really awesome with BB doing markups & callouts...
Bb vu is much lighter than cads viewers and dont have to Hunt down xrefs shx fonts and all the other things engineers won't send along with files
It's always the translators fault didn't you know ?
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Bluebeam Is much better than Acrobat Reader in all forms.
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Never heard of Bluebeam.
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@Kyle said:
Bluebeam Is much better than Acrobat Reader in all forms.
I think I might have to check it out. Thanks!
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Looks a lot like what Google Sketchup is, and it looks like it was spun off into it's own company.
http://www.sketchup.com/ -
@GregoryHall said:
Looks a lot like what Google Sketchup is, and it looks like it was spun off into it's own company.
http://www.sketchup.com/Not anything like that. This is taking an actual CAD file, like a CATpart from CATIA v5 that is in 3D space, and putting it into a PDF, with basic controls while retaining the geometry allowing someone to view and take measurements of the 3D object without having to have CATIA v5 loaded on their workstation.
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so you cannot edit or markup the file?
So really for the non engineer folks ... -
@GregoryHall said:
so you cannot edit or markup the file?
So really for the non engineer folks ...That is what it's geared for, non-engineer types. You can do markups, take measurements and do basic tasks like switch views (if the file supported views), inspect properties etc. You can't design a 3D object.
This is a view from Adobe Acrobat Reader XI
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So many free viewers. We used to use Solidworks eDrawings, which was great, but they don't currently support the lastest Autodesk Inventor file formats. So now we use Autodesk Inventor View. However, this software is a bit too limited for many of our users. We're trying to do away with printed drawings on the factory floor, but this means the factor floor workers need to be able to do some basic manipulation on the model in order to get a view of what they need. Inventor View is more of a simple printing tool.
Hopefully, Adobe might come to the rescue.
