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    3D PDF - Anyone Heard of This?

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    • Bill KindleB
      Bill Kindle
      last edited by

      That's not even the half of it. I can pull in data and put that data into a custom template, giving you much more than shown here. But yeah, you can rotate that in 3D space, just like you would in a normal CAD app.

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      • RoguePacketR
        RoguePacket @Bill Kindle
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        @Bill-Kindle Heard about it. PDF spec has many cool features....which can also be used for malevolence as PDF virus trend has shown.

        Good to see the 3D bits actually implemented.

        Also—

        • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format#Standardized_subsets_of_PDF
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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          I agree with Rogue, I really don't like seeing the PDF format adding all of this functionality. I wish it would be a different file format and keep PDF back to their original purpose, cross platform identical printing/viewing. all these bonus features just add more avenues for hackers - Adobe has shown they can't make anywhere near clean code, flash anyone?

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          • Bill KindleB
            Bill Kindle @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender I understand your concern. But the way I understand the technology right now is that all its allowing you do do is see geometry in 3D space. You can't actually do a whole lot of anything with it other than get representations and other CAD related info. Not quite the same thing as a static picture embedded into a PDF.

            Right now I think a lot of the auto industry and their suppliers are going to be the primary benefactors of this tech.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
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              @bill-kindle all it's allowing you to do, is allow virus writers to incorporate java-script and other programs that can take over your computer.

              I understand that Adobe is trying to be the single interface for anything you might view on your computer, but the risk is really just to great.

              If you're a company that needs to view 3D images and see geometry, you most likely already have free viewers for the products that produce the image files in the first place.

              Ultimately it's not that I don't want a single product that does it all, that would be great - But Reader has more security holes than Carter has little liver pills. it's as bad or worse than Java.

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              • Bill KindleB
                Bill Kindle @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender Not with the level of detail that the product I'm testing allows for. Adobe however was not the company that developed this tech, they bought the company that did develop it.

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                • Bill KindleB
                  Bill Kindle
                  last edited by

                  More technical info here for anyone interested in this technology:
                  http://www.tetra4d.com/

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                  • david.wieseD
                    david.wiese
                    last edited by

                    what cad software is this from, we use autocad and i would love to have this. This would stop me from loading design view on everyones computer just so they can view the stupid 3d files.

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                    • Bill KindleB
                      Bill Kindle @david.wiese
                      last edited by

                      @david.wiese said:

                      what cad software is this from, we use autocad and i would love to have this. This would stop me from loading design view on everyones computer just so they can view the stupid 3d files.

                      well the original link is something the company I work for is developing and will be releasing soon, I believe I captured some CATIA v5 data with that translator. The Tetra 4D company actually has a add-on to Adobe that pulls the data in to create the document.

                      The company I work for is primarily working with NX, CATIA, JT, and PTC/WindChill.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        NX as in NoMachine?

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                        • Bill KindleB
                          Bill Kindle @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          NX as in NoMachine?

                          No, Siemens NX (used to be called Unigraphics or UGNX). Out of all the CAD platforms I've been introduced to this is my favorite, and if I were a designer, I would prefer NX.

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                          • KyleK
                            Kyle
                            last edited by

                            I have seen 3D PDF's before. I used to work for a General Contractor and one of the Architectural firms used 3D models all the time. Layer support in PDF's is also pretty neat since you can Add and Remove layers from the PDF for easy viewing. Side note, Autodesk (The makers of Autocad) offer a free cad file viewer witch also allows for markups and measurements.

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                            • B
                              BC
                              last edited by BC

                              Bluebeam as shown above has just as much power..

                              Love pulling models apart via 3D PDF... Will upload a snowmobile example or enviorodome cad examples. Makes it really awesome with BB doing markups & callouts...

                              Bb vu is much lighter than cads viewers and dont have to Hunt down xrefs shx fonts and all the other things engineers won't send along with files

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                              • Bill KindleB
                                Bill Kindle @BC
                                last edited by

                                @BC said:

                                Bluebeam as shown above has just as much power..

                                Love pulling models apart via 3D PDF... Will upload a snowmobile example or enviorodome cad examples. Makes it really awesome with BB doing markups & callouts...

                                Bb vu is much lighter than cads viewers and dont have to Hunt down xrefs shx fonts and all the other things engineers won't send along with files

                                It's always the translators fault didn't you know ? 😜

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                                • KyleK
                                  Kyle
                                  last edited by

                                  Bluebeam Is much better than Acrobat Reader in all forms.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Never heard of Bluebeam.

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                                    • lanceL
                                      lance @Kyle
                                      last edited by

                                      @Kyle said:

                                      Bluebeam Is much better than Acrobat Reader in all forms.

                                      I think I might have to check it out. Thanks!

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                                      • GregoryHallG
                                        GregoryHall
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                                        Looks a lot like what Google Sketchup is, and it looks like it was spun off into it's own company.
                                        http://www.sketchup.com/

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                                        • Bill KindleB
                                          Bill Kindle @GregoryHall
                                          last edited by

                                          @GregoryHall said:

                                          Looks a lot like what Google Sketchup is, and it looks like it was spun off into it's own company.
                                          http://www.sketchup.com/

                                          Not anything like that. This is taking an actual CAD file, like a CATpart from CATIA v5 that is in 3D space, and putting it into a PDF, with basic controls while retaining the geometry allowing someone to view and take measurements of the 3D object without having to have CATIA v5 loaded on their workstation.

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                                          • GregoryHallG
                                            GregoryHall
                                            last edited by GregoryHall

                                            so you cannot edit or markup the file?
                                            So really for the non engineer folks ...

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