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      scottalanmiller
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      So sad that they felt that they had to do it that way.

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        JaredBusch
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        It has been that was since Hyper-V Server 2012 was released.

        How else do you think the normal install GUI screens pop up when you install stuff like the ScreenConnect MSI or Dell OMSA?

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          Kelly @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said in Managing Hyper-V:

          It has been that was since Hyper-V Server 2012 was released.

          How else do you think the normal install GUI screens pop up when you install stuff like the ScreenConnect MSI or Dell OMSA?

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            triple9 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

            @DustinB3403 said in Managing Hyper-V:

            I'm in the camp of not joining your hypervisors to the domain.

            If you get locked (because of domain controls) out of your hypervisors then you're SOL, along with the domain functions.

            We all had 5Nine for free till a few days ago.

            has anyone tried this product? https://www.probus-it.com/prohvm-hyper-v-manager/
            It has free version and pro is not that expensive (€59.00).
            I don't have access to Hyper-V server at the moment to try by myself how it works.

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              dafyre @triple9
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              @triple9 Looks interesting.

              I did a quick test of it, and it let me connect from a non-domain joined Win10 client to a Domain-Joined Hyper-V 2012 R2 server with just entering my credentials and what-not.

              It DOES provide VM Console access, and it doesn't seem terribly slow either, so after my 5 minutes with it, I rate it as not bad based on the free version. Might be worth buying licenses for folks that manage several Hyper-V servers.

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                NashBrydges @triple9
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                @triple9 It's not as pretty as 5Nine but seems to perform the same functions as the free version of 5Nine provided. A little slower but it works.

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                  matteo nunziati
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                  don't understand what gives more then mmc snap-in so I'm going to test it but at first install run both smart screen and antivirus screwed. just retrying now...

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                    matteo nunziati
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                    ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.

                    have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.

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                      matteo nunziati @matteo nunziati
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                      @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                      ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.

                      have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.

                      ok wine failed both as common user and as root. I give up!

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                        dafyre @matteo nunziati
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                        @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                        ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.

                        have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.

                        It didn't seem to run slowly to me at all.

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                          dafyre @matteo nunziati
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                          @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                          @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                          ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.

                          have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.

                          ok wine failed both as common user and as root. I give up!

                          What version(s) of Wine have you tried?

                          Are we talking about proHVM or the windows client tools?

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                            scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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                            @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                            @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                            ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.

                            have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.

                            ok wine failed both as common user and as root. I give up!

                            I've heard it does not run that way as well 😞

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                              matteo nunziati @dafyre
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                              @dafyre said in Managing Hyper-V:

                              @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                              @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                              ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.

                              have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.

                              ok wine failed both as common user and as root. I give up!

                              What version(s) of Wine have you tried?

                              the one available with ubuntu... didn't checked the version

                              Are we talking about proHVM or the windows client tools?

                              proHVM

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                                dafyre @matteo nunziati
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                                @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                @dafyre said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.

                                have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.

                                ok wine failed both as common user and as root. I give up!

                                What version(s) of Wine have you tried?

                                the one available with ubuntu... didn't checked the version

                                Are we talking about proHVM or the windows client tools?

                                proHVM

                                I'll give this a go tomorrow and see what I can come up with.

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                                  Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                  Sure, we can use the Scale to manage Hyper-V, but it's hard to believe that that is the answer for such a giant ecosystem - it needs external support for remote management. XenServer + XenOrchestra, Scale, KVM with different tools, etc. have secure web management interfaces for this stuff so that they can be used in a non-LAN setting natively and easily.

                                  @scottalanmiller What free tools allow you to view console and manage KVM and VMs running on KVM, over HTML5 (or remotely via web)?

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                                    dafyre @Obsolesce
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                                    @Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                    Sure, we can use the Scale to manage Hyper-V, but it's hard to believe that that is the answer for such a giant ecosystem - it needs external support for remote management. XenServer + XenOrchestra, Scale, KVM with different tools, etc. have secure web management interfaces for this stuff so that they can be used in a non-LAN setting natively and easily.

                                    @scottalanmiller What free tools allow you to view console and manage KVM and VMs running on KVM, over HTML5 (or remotely via web)?

                                    WebVirtMgr (http://retspen.github.io/) is what I use if I need a web Browser... otherwise, I just use the Virtual Machine Manager.

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                                      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                      @Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                      Sure, we can use the Scale to manage Hyper-V, but it's hard to believe that that is the answer for such a giant ecosystem - it needs external support for remote management. XenServer + XenOrchestra, Scale, KVM with different tools, etc. have secure web management interfaces for this stuff so that they can be used in a non-LAN setting natively and easily.

                                      @scottalanmiller What free tools allow you to view console and manage KVM and VMs running on KVM, over HTML5 (or remotely via web)?

                                      The Scale HC3 gives you a web interface to your Windows that runs on top of it.

                                      But you can put Guacamole in front of that.

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                                        Obsolesce @dafyre
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                                        @dafyre said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                        @Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                        Sure, we can use the Scale to manage Hyper-V, but it's hard to believe that that is the answer for such a giant ecosystem - it needs external support for remote management. XenServer + XenOrchestra, Scale, KVM with different tools, etc. have secure web management interfaces for this stuff so that they can be used in a non-LAN setting natively and easily.

                                        @scottalanmiller What free tools allow you to view console and manage KVM and VMs running on KVM, over HTML5 (or remotely via web)?

                                        WebVirtMgr (http://retspen.github.io/) is what I use if I need a web Browser... otherwise, I just use the Virtual Machine Manager.

                                        Really? That looks too good to be true...

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                                          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                          @Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                          @dafyre said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                          @Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                          Sure, we can use the Scale to manage Hyper-V, but it's hard to believe that that is the answer for such a giant ecosystem - it needs external support for remote management. XenServer + XenOrchestra, Scale, KVM with different tools, etc. have secure web management interfaces for this stuff so that they can be used in a non-LAN setting natively and easily.

                                          @scottalanmiller What free tools allow you to view console and manage KVM and VMs running on KVM, over HTML5 (or remotely via web)?

                                          WebVirtMgr (http://retspen.github.io/) is what I use if I need a web Browser... otherwise, I just use the Virtual Machine Manager.

                                          Really? That looks too good to be true...

                                          To be fair, everything truly awesome looks too good to be true until we get used to using it. 🙂

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                                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                            @Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                            @dafyre said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                            @Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                            Sure, we can use the Scale to manage Hyper-V, but it's hard to believe that that is the answer for such a giant ecosystem - it needs external support for remote management. XenServer + XenOrchestra, Scale, KVM with different tools, etc. have secure web management interfaces for this stuff so that they can be used in a non-LAN setting natively and easily.

                                            @scottalanmiller What free tools allow you to view console and manage KVM and VMs running on KVM, over HTML5 (or remotely via web)?

                                            WebVirtMgr (http://retspen.github.io/) is what I use if I need a web Browser... otherwise, I just use the Virtual Machine Manager.

                                            Really? That looks too good to be true...

                                            To be fair, everything truly awesome looks too good to be true until we get used to using it. 🙂

                                            And then everything else looks like scorched earth. . .

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