FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues
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@r3dpand4 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@coliver @RojoLoco It's certainly second tier to the profitability for most I'd assume, but I don't see investors passing on an opportunity where 90+% of the country is horribly dissatisfied with their ISP and not thinking hey this is definitely something we should look into.
NN has nothing to do with no one starting an ISP with better service and policies.
Go do a little historical digging. The incumbents spend a fuckton of money on this every year.
There is a reason that Google Fiber has barely progressed. It is because the incumbents do not want competition and they have litigated it to stagnation. Google has given up, that is why they switched to project Loon.
See my comments about my hometown being fought by Charter.
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@jaredbusch Okay will do! Again I wasn't trying to make ISPs out to be angels or anything, I was just thinking of some of the possible outcomes of this whole thing.
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@jaredbusch said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@r3dpand4 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@coliver @RojoLoco It's certainly second tier to the profitability for most I'd assume, but I don't see investors passing on an opportunity where 90+% of the country is horribly dissatisfied with their ISP and not thinking hey this is definitely something we should look into.
NN has nothing to do with no one starting an ISP with better service and policies.
Go do a little historical digging. The incumbents spend a fuckton of money on this every year.
There is a reason that Google Fiber has barely progressed. It is because the incumbents do not want competition and they have litigated it to stagnation. Google has given up, that is why they switched to project Loon.
See my comments about my hometown being fought by Charter.
Project Loon is going to be a big deal if they can get it off the ground. I know Elon Musk is also looking at doing LEO satellite internet within the decade, that is going to put a crush on incumbent ISPs if, again, it ever gets off the ground. Both of those have the advantage of not moving into incumbent ISP space so it would be very difficult to sue over them.
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@rojoloco said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@r3dpand4 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender That's very possible, I could also see people with very large pockets getting involved and providing aid through that process. There have been instances where investors see a business opportunity as well as have the ethical motivation to step in, but yeah that's certainly a concern.
You don't seriously think that investors have any ethical motivation beyond making money , do you????????
This is definitely the case for VCs, to only care about making money. It would be awesome to see warren buffet's money going toward projects like this for the people at large, and less for charity in general.
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@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@rojoloco said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@r3dpand4 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender That's very possible, I could also see people with very large pockets getting involved and providing aid through that process. There have been instances where investors see a business opportunity as well as have the ethical motivation to step in, but yeah that's certainly a concern.
You don't seriously think that investors have any ethical motivation beyond making money , do you????????
This is definitely the case for VCs, to only care about making money. It would be awesome to see warren buffet's money going toward projects like this for the people at large, and less for charity in general.
Agreed. All he's doing is supporting huge salaries for people who run charities.
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@mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
man.. we just need to find someone willing to stand up SIP direct communications via DNS or something - get rid of the central carrier crap!
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@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
man.. we just need to find someone willing to stand up SIP direct communications via DNS or something - get rid of the central carrier crap!
LOL, mine is up. That was easy.
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@scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
man.. we just need to find someone willing to stand up SIP direct communications via DNS or something - get rid of the central carrier crap!
LOL, mine is up. That was easy.
HAHA, you know what I mean.
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@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
man.. we just need to find someone willing to stand up SIP direct communications via DNS or something - get rid of the central carrier crap!
LOL, mine is up. That was easy.
HAHA, you know what I mean.
The real issue is that we need EVERYONE to do it.
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@scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
man.. we just need to find someone willing to stand up SIP direct communications via DNS or something - get rid of the central carrier crap!
LOL, mine is up. That was easy.
HAHA, you know what I mean.
The real issue is that we need EVERYONE to do it.
exactly.
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He said it, but did anyone listen?
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Looks like Ajit Pai might be on the payroll of Sinclair Broadcast Group. Two lawmakers are asking for an investigation.
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@mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
Looks like Ajit Pai might be on the payroll of Sinclair Broadcast Group. Two lawmakers are asking for an investigation.
Surprising literally no one...
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This is bizarre to me.
Pai's proposal relies on filings made by carriers to bolster his argument that the functional test "resulted in unnecessary and costly filings" and "can also delay network upgrades." The proposal dismissed the Communications Workers of America argument that the functional test doesn't create uncertainty, saying the union's argument is "directly contradicted by the comments of many carriers."
I'm not a fan of Unions, especially since they directly benefit from this rule, but why are you relying on the people you are charged with regulating when you should be doing your own study? Oh right... money.
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@mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
Basically... "We want states to regulate municipal broadband and prevent cities from creating their own ISPs.... but we don't want states to regulate us." am I understanding this correctly? Seems like we want our cake, eat it, and prevent the poors from ever getting flour to make their own cake.
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@coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
Basically... "We want states to regulate municipal broadband and prevent cities from creating their own ISPs.... but we don't want states to regulate us." am I understanding this correctly? Seems like we want our cake, eat it, and prevent the poors from ever getting flour to make their own cake.
Yup, but more like "we don't even want the poors to know what cake is."
