NextCloud and PHP 7
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NextCloud officially recommends RHEL/CentOS 7 + PHP 7 as one of the main recommended methods of installing NextCloud.
Yet as we are all well aware, CentOS 7 ships with PHP 5.4.
We went down this rabbit hole a year ago with @jospoortvliet and others from ownCloud at the time.
So last night, I posted on NextCloud's own forum, and was told by @jospoortvliet this morning that it is not supported.
This is a serious damned WTF moment here. I mean I know @jospoortvliet is not a technical lead. We learned that a year ago.
But FFS if you are going to say a method is the recommended, then dangit, tell us how you want it done. Don't tell me to become a f****[moderated] customer.
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I've been building on Fedora 25 because of this issue.
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That the recommended method isn't supported is a foundational problem - it indicates that no supported or recommended at least option exists.
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And the supported platform list specifically states PHP5.6 + required. So that is not any different because it is not part of RHEL/CentOS.
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That's why I decided to just make the leap. Once I was not going with 5.4 it just didn't feel like any of it made sense.
It works beautifully on F25.
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@scottalanmiller I will not continue to support and recommend a company that cannot be bothered to do anything except tell me to become a customer when they purport to be such a FOSS supporting company. This is really f[moderated] basic.
Provide the method required to be considered a valid install path for the recommended system configuration.
Why would I ever want to trust them for anything when they say one thing and act another way.
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@scottalanmiller said in NextCloud and PHP 7:
That's why I decided to just make the leap. Once I was not going with 5.4 it just didn't feel like any of it made sense.
It works beautifully on F25.
That is not even on their supported list BTW. I mean I know what Fedora is, but it is specifically not listed.
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I don't think that there is an end to end supported option. Either the OS or the PHP is going to be outside of support. No way to get every vendor to consider it supported for their portion.
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@JaredBusch said in NextCloud and PHP 7:
@scottalanmiller said in NextCloud and PHP 7:
That's why I decided to just make the leap. Once I was not going with 5.4 it just didn't feel like any of it made sense.
It works beautifully on F25.
That is not even on their supported list BTW. I mean I know what Fedora is, but it is specifically not listed.
Yeah that's frustrating. I actually opted to stay with Nextcloud 10 this time around because when I attempted to upgrade to PHP 7 and install Nextcloud 11 with my test server I ran into a lot of problems.
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Almost exactly one year ago btw on the first shit storm on this..
https://mangolassi.it/topic/8433/adding-remi-s-rpm-repository-to-centos-7-and-updating-to-php-5-6
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@wirestyle22 said in NextCloud and PHP 7:
@JaredBusch said in NextCloud and PHP 7:
@scottalanmiller said in NextCloud and PHP 7:
That's why I decided to just make the leap. Once I was not going with 5.4 it just didn't feel like any of it made sense.
It works beautifully on F25.
That is not even on their supported list BTW. I mean I know what Fedora is, but it is specifically not listed.
Yeah that's frustrating. I actually opted to stay with Nextcloud 10 this time around because when I attempted to upgrade to PHP 7 and install Nextcloud 11 with my test server I ran into a lot of problems.
I am looking to perform a new install.
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@JaredBusch said in NextCloud and PHP 7:
@wirestyle22 said in NextCloud and PHP 7:
@JaredBusch said in NextCloud and PHP 7:
@scottalanmiller said in NextCloud and PHP 7:
That's why I decided to just make the leap. Once I was not going with 5.4 it just didn't feel like any of it made sense.
It works beautifully on F25.
That is not even on their supported list BTW. I mean I know what Fedora is, but it is specifically not listed.
Yeah that's frustrating. I actually opted to stay with Nextcloud 10 this time around because when I attempted to upgrade to PHP 7 and install Nextcloud 11 with my test server I ran into a lot of problems.
I am looking to perform a new install.
Right--that's what I was doing, but I still needed to upgrade to PHP 7 to get Nextcloud 11 working and never could
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Is NextClouds business model to offer support for people who install this themselves?
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NethServer 7 has NextCloud built in. Maybe they are the official install
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And @jospoortvliet still seems as clueless as last year. I get he is marketing and not technical. But FFS, just get a technical lead to post an officially recommended repo for acquiring PHP 5.6+
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@JaredBusch I know you favor CentOS, and I do too, but what about Ubuntu 16.04?
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For those CentOS 7 users. You can use IUS repo. When installing SnipeIT with their script, it use EPEL (required) and IUS.
yum install php71u
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@black3dynamite Thanks for that
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@black3dynamite said in NextCloud and PHP 7:
For those CentOS 7 users. You can use IUS repo. When installing SnipeIT with their script, it use EPEL (required) and IUS.
yum install php71u
Yeah, someone from the ownCloud team had finally posted a recommendation last year, for a source and I believe they used IUS.
I had already went forward with using Remi by that point though.
Again, right now, I want the official recommendation from NextCloud.
SHould be dead simple, but it is apparently not.
