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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

      That means you hate all Muslims.

      Muslims are not a race. And I don't hate any Muslims. Where have you gotten any of that?

      Now you're getting into the semantics of the words when you realize you've backed yourself into a corner.

      Um, what? LOL You accused me of having a religious hatred in a conversation about racism about feelings I never had.

      What corner?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

        You are aware that people are Racist and hate Muslims. Yes? And granted participating in the Muslim religion doesn't make you a type of person.

        As two distinct actions, yes.

        And correct, being Muslim tells us nothing about the race, feelings, or type of person a person is.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

          That means you hate all Muslims.

          Muslims are not a race. And I don't hate any Muslims. Where have you gotten any of that?

          Now you're getting into the semantics of the words when you realize you've backed yourself into a corner.

          You are aware that people are Racist and hate Muslims. Yes? And granted participating in the Muslim religion doesn't make you a type of person.

          This does still mean that you are a racist.

          What means I'm a racist? There is something fundamentally missing here. You think I'm a racist while not hating any group: race or otherwise?

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

            That means you hate all Muslims.

            Muslims are not a race. And I don't hate any Muslims. Where have you gotten any of that?

            Now you're getting into the semantics of the words when you realize you've backed yourself into a corner.

            Um, what? LOL You accused me of having a religious hatred in a conversation about racism about feelings I never had.

            What corner?

            The corner of you having admitted to condoning a war in a country based on the believe that people who attacked the US were Muslim.

            And you're attempting to stick to the most direct application of the definition of racism as being "by skin color only" when racism is equally applied to "hating anyone of a particular group, faction, skin, religion or other identifier".

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Let's try this another way...

              You think I'm a racist. To be a racist you must hate some group. what group of people do you think I am racist against (or towards, could be inclusive or exclusive.)

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                That means you hate all Muslims.

                Muslims are not a race. And I don't hate any Muslims. Where have you gotten any of that?

                Now you're getting into the semantics of the words when you realize you've backed yourself into a corner.

                Um, what? LOL You accused me of having a religious hatred in a conversation about racism about feelings I never had.

                What corner?

                The corner of you having admitted to condoning a war in a country based on the believe that people who attacked the US were Muslim.

                When did I condone any war. And what war is it that you think I condoned?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                  That means you hate all Muslims.

                  Muslims are not a race. And I don't hate any Muslims. Where have you gotten any of that?

                  Now you're getting into the semantics of the words when you realize you've backed yourself into a corner.

                  You are aware that people are Racist and hate Muslims. Yes? And granted participating in the Muslim religion doesn't make you a type of person.

                  This does still mean that you are a racist.

                  What means I'm a racist? There is something fundamentally missing here. You think I'm a racist while not hating any group: race or otherwise?

                  You agree that the war after 911 was acceptable, yet that was was specifically and blatantly targeting Muslims.

                  Hence you must be racist because you've agreed that the war is A-OKAY in your book.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                    And you're attempting to stick to the most direct application of the definition of racism as being "by skin color only" when racism is equally applied to "hating anyone of a particular group, faction, skin, religion or other identifier".

                    By strict you mean "only", in this case.

                    I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.

                    Definition of racism

                    1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
                    2a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
                    b : a political or social system founded on racism
                    3 : racial prejudice or discrimination

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                      That means you hate all Muslims.

                      Muslims are not a race. And I don't hate any Muslims. Where have you gotten any of that?

                      Now you're getting into the semantics of the words when you realize you've backed yourself into a corner.

                      You are aware that people are Racist and hate Muslims. Yes? And granted participating in the Muslim religion doesn't make you a type of person.

                      This does still mean that you are a racist.

                      What means I'm a racist? There is something fundamentally missing here. You think I'm a racist while not hating any group: race or otherwise?

                      You agree that the war after 911 was acceptable, yet that was was specifically and blatantly targeting Muslims.

                      I never agreed to that. I said that people who supported it were racists. I've never agreed with any war that the US has engaged in since 1960.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                        I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.

                        Racism as a sole word would be to hate a specific ethnicity. But it has evolved to include hating any group or culture.

                        FFS. Is this really difficult to understand?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          And I know that you will completely twist that, but it does not imply that I agree with all wars prior to 1960. But I know you are planning to go there.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                            I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.

                            Racism as a sole word would be to hate a specific ethnicity. But it has evolved to include hating any group or culture.

                            No, it hasn't. You are simply confused.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              But regardless, you think that I have a religious hatred of a group. But have said no reason why you believe this to be true.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                                I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.

                                Racism as a sole word would be to hate a specific ethnicity. But it has evolved to include hating any group or culture.

                                No, it hasn't. You are simply confused.

                                You're insane if you think the definition of racism hasn't changed to include hating groups of people based on religion alone.

                                Absolutely insane.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  An interesting aside..... calling something like Muslim or Judaism racism is, itself, kind of racist. By projecting racial characteristics onto a religious group. Not all practitioners of either religion are one race.

                                  The term for what you want is often just called "religious intolerance." But as religion is voluntary and race is not, they are unrelated concepts.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                                    I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.

                                    Racism as a sole word would be to hate a specific ethnicity. But it has evolved to include hating any group or culture.

                                    No, it hasn't. You are simply confused.

                                    You're insane if you think the definition of racism hasn't changed to include hating groups of people based on religion alone.

                                    Absolutely insane.

                                    Well I provided the dictionary definition. So the dictionary is insane.

                                    You are desperately on a tangent and avoiding providing the proof that I hate Muslims.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/41901/race-is-to-racism-as-religion-is-to-what

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_discrimination

                                        Weird that this isn't under racism, right?

                                        https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/151928/is-there-a-word-for-hate-against-religions-or-a-specific-religion

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by DustinB3403

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                                          An interesting aside..... calling something like Muslim or Judaism racism is, itself, kind of racist. By projecting racial characteristics onto a religious group. Not all practitioners of either religion are one race.

                                          The term for what you want is often just called "religious intolerance." But as religion is voluntary and race is not, they are unrelated concepts.

                                          Yes, religious intolerance is the exact term, and racism is included with it. The crusades were both religiously intolerant and racist at the same time.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                                            An interesting aside..... calling something like Muslim or Judaism racism is, itself, kind of racist. By projecting racial characteristics onto a religious group. Not all practitioners of either religion are one race.

                                            The term for what you want is often just called "religious intolerance." But as religion is voluntary and race is not, they are unrelated concepts.

                                            Yes, religious intolerance is the exact term, and racism is included with it. The crusades were both religious intolerant and racist at the same time.

                                            It is not. They are totally different concepts, as I explained why. You can't lump involuntary groups with voluntary societies. SO different, obviously. Would be insane to even suggest otherwise.

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