old MSP wants to know what they did wrong
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@DustinB3403 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
While I don't disagree, the issues that the previous tech left should be documented, and provided to the customer so they can address the issue. I don't think that @Mike-Davis should even communicate with the old tech at all.
It's not his place to speak to anyone but his customer. If the client asks that of @Mike-Davis then ok.
I would highly recommend that this company pay for the documentation process. Otherwise I wouldn't touch the company. @ntozier is spot on. If they won't pay for the documentation process then they are already lost. You can't start fixing things if you don't document what exactly is wrong.
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@IRJ said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@DustinB3403 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
While I don't disagree, the issues that the previous tech left should be documented, and provided to the customer so they can address the issue. I don't think that @Mike-Davis should even communicate with the old tech at all.
It's not his place to speak to anyone but his customer. If the client asks that of @Mike-Davis then ok.
I would highly recommend that this company pay for the documentation process. Otherwise I wouldn't touch the company. @ntozier is spot on. If they won't pay for the documentation process then they are already lost. You can't start fixing things if you don't document what exactly is wrong.
That is a good point, to go through the existing organization and document the issues that are present. This gives @Mike-Davis a checklist of things that need to be addressed.
More likely what will happen is that he'll be working on something and discover an issue.
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I have a running list. I have screen shots. I have photos of the server literally being held together with duct tape.
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@Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
I have a running list. I have screen shots. I have photos of the server literally being held together with duct tape.
Who needs the "cloud" when you have duct tape?
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@Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
I have a running list. I have screen shots. I have photos of the server literally being held together with duct tape.
I need this shared.....
I've seen people use rubber bands and scotch tap to fit an SSD to the original 3.5" winchester, but duct tape.. come on.
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@IRJ said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
I have a running list. I have screen shots. I have photos of the server literally being held together with duct tape.
Who needs the "cloud" when you have duct tape?
Who needs a server at that point.... or ethernet clips, or drive bays or anything.
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Some of the stuff, the tech could say that the owner didn't want to spend money on a new server, so he couldn't do anything.
Other stuff, like using the everyone group instead of the domain users group when creating the main file share there is just no excuse for except for incompetence.
He probably did this because some people are logging in under domain accounts and some are local accounts and couldn't figure out why the share wasn't working.
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@DustinB3403 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
I have a running list. I have screen shots. I have photos of the server literally being held together with duct tape.
I need this shared.....
I've seen people use rubber bands and scotch tap to fit an SSD to the original 3.5" winchester, but duct tape.. come on.
As much as I want to see the issues, he probably shouldn't share a report even if information is redacted. Because if the company name somehow gets out, they can be hacked in about 10 seconds lol.
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@DustinB3403 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@IRJ said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
I have a running list. I have screen shots. I have photos of the server literally being held together with duct tape.
Who needs the "cloud" when you have duct tape?
Who needs a server at that point.... or ethernet clips, or drive bays or anything.
Not me, just a block of wood and enough duct tape to hold the motherboard down and the hard drive up.
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@IRJ said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@DustinB3403 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
I have a running list. I have screen shots. I have photos of the server literally being held together with duct tape.
I need this shared.....
I've seen people use rubber bands and scotch tap to fit an SSD to the original 3.5" winchester, but duct tape.. come on.
As much as I want to see the issues, he probably shouldn't share a report even if information is redacted. Because if the company name somehow gets out, they can be hacked in about 10 seconds lol.
True... True... But I'd settle for the picture of the server held together with Duct tape.
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@IRJ said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
As much as I want to see the issues, he probably shouldn't share a report even if information is redacted. Because if the company name somehow gets out, they can be hacked in about 10 seconds lol.
The ironic thing is that the owner was so concerned about security that he doesn't have any wifi in the place. -Good thing too, the guy probably would have secured it with WEP, if anything.
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@Mike-Davis and what exactly is wrong with WEP?!
(sarcasm boys)
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@dafyre said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
But I'd settle for the picture of the server held together with Duct tape.
@dafyre Here you go:
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@DustinB3403 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
Might as well have built the server using a pizza box...
I've seen that before...
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@Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@Dashrender said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@scottalanmiller said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@travisdh1 finally someone who actually knows what a pizza box is in IT!
OK this begs for an explanation.
It was a nickname for the shape of it. I think SGI had a box nicknamed the toaster around that same time.
As did Amiga
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@Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@Dashrender said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@scottalanmiller said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@travisdh1 finally someone who actually knows what a pizza box is in IT!
OK this begs for an explanation.
It was a nickname for the shape of it. I think SGI had a box nicknamed the toaster around that same time.
Yes they did, the O2. I've been very tempted to try picking up a working model on ebay.
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@travisdh1 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@Dashrender said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@scottalanmiller said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@travisdh1 finally someone who actually knows what a pizza box is in IT!
OK this begs for an explanation.
It was a nickname for the shape of it. I think SGI had a box nicknamed the toaster around that same time.
Yes they did, the O2. I've been very tempted to try picking up a working model on ebay.
Some old school stuff right there.
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@Dashrender said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@scottalanmiller said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
That's the "doesn't know what a pizza box" problem that I was referring to. 1U servers are not pizza boxes, they are not square. THat's a new thing that people who don't know Sparcstations, but have overheard people use the term, mistakenly call them now. A 1U should never be called a pizza box.
This seems like IT elitism for the sake of elitism. Sure the original pizzabox was the Sparcstation - the second gen pizzabox was a 1U rackmount server.
If that was the intention, then that would be fine. But a repeated accidental misuse of a term is not the same thing at all. Being knowledgeable and correct is never elitism. Calling a 1U a pizzabox is just an alternative fact. People heard the term, didn't understand it and wanted to sound cool and it got repeated. Exactly the same as blade servers. Lots of people call 1U servers that, too. And it is always wrong. People know one thing and want to use buzz words so apply them to anything that they see. Cloud, virtual, etc.
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@scottalanmiller said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@Dashrender said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
@scottalanmiller said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
That's the "doesn't know what a pizza box" problem that I was referring to. 1U servers are not pizza boxes, they are not square. THat's a new thing that people who don't know Sparcstations, but have overheard people use the term, mistakenly call them now. A 1U should never be called a pizza box.
This seems like IT elitism for the sake of elitism. Sure the original pizzabox was the Sparcstation - the second gen pizzabox was a 1U rackmount server.
If that was the intention, then that would be fine.
how do you know it wasn't the intention? I'd never seen a Sparcstation until I saw what were already ancient pictures of them, like the one above.
The first time I heard of a pizzabox was in a datacenter talking about IBM 1U servers. Right or wrong, the term has two meanings today.
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@Dashrender said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:
The first time I heard of a pizzabox was in a datacenter talking about IBM 1U servers. Right or wrong, the term has two meanings today.
Just like cloud has two meanings, and blades do. We work in IT, wrong is wrong. There isn't room for sloppy. Just using terms mistakenly doesn't make it okay.
You can say it has two meanings, but where does thinking like that stop? Soon you can say anything and we have no terminology for our field. Just because lots of people repeat something incorrectly doesn't make it okay nor does it make it a term for that thing.
