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    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      0_1511978609737_Screenshot from 2017-11-29 12-03-22.png

      Definitely doesn't look or sound like Access is the database in any way. It looks like a tool for making databases, which is exactly how MS describes it on the right. And they point out that Access can connect to many databases, including cloud ones. Making it extra clear that Access isn't the database.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
        last edited by

        @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

        @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

        Does anyone in IT even know what a database is any more? I feel like every single thread about databases results in one single discussion explaining what a database is. And has anyone ever used Access knowing what it is? I feel like the one requirement of using Access is that you have no idea what you chose or why.

        https://products.office.com/en-us/access

        Look at the second screenshot. If you didn't know anything, "Blank Desktop Database" would make you think you're creating the database with Access; thus making you believe you have an "Access Database."

        You are MAKING IT with Access. Access isn't it. It's like mistaking the paint brush for the painting.

        I understand and agree. I'm just giving you the thought process of someone that "didn't know anything." 🙂

        Even if they don't know anything, it never looks like it is the database. People using Excel don't confuse Excel the application with the spreadsheet files. Why is Access getting confused in this really weird way?

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        • EddieJenningsE
          EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

          Even if they don't know anything, it never looks like it is the database. People using Excel don't confuse Excel the application with the spreadsheet files. Why is Access getting confused in this really weird way?

          You sure about that? I'd guess over half of my users say they have Excel spreadsheets rather than spreadsheets.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @NerdyDad
            last edited by

            @nerdydad said in I can't even:

            Literal excerpt from a ticket.

            
            Need your assistance with the following connection for the equipment to be delivered and installed Dec. 09 
            
            Due to the built-in servo amplifier and frequency converter the 
            machines can not be connected directly to an IT network. 
            The IT network must be converted to a TN-S network by an isolating 
            transformer. The machine is connected to the TN-S network.
            
            This is going to a manufacturing machine, but can anybody shed some light as to what I am looking at here?
            

            Wtf is a TN-S network?

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            • NerdyDadN
              NerdyDad @Obsolesce
              last edited by

              @tim_g said in I can't even:

              @nerdydad said in I can't even:

              Literal excerpt from a ticket.

              
              Need your assistance with the following connection for the equipment to be delivered and installed Dec. 09 
              
              Due to the built-in servo amplifier and frequency converter the 
              machines can not be connected directly to an IT network. 
              The IT network must be converted to a TN-S network by an isolating 
              transformer. The machine is connected to the TN-S network.
              
              This is going to a manufacturing machine, but can anybody shed some light as to what I am looking at here?
              

              Wtf is a TN-S network?

              Okay good. I'm not the only one thinking that.

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              • EddieJenningsE
                EddieJennings @NerdyDad
                last edited by

                @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                Literal excerpt from a ticket.

                
                Need your assistance with the following connection for the equipment to be delivered and installed Dec. 09 
                
                Due to the built-in servo amplifier and frequency converter the 
                machines can not be connected directly to an IT network. 
                The IT network must be converted to a TN-S network by an isolating 
                transformer. The machine is connected to the TN-S network.
                
                This is going to a manufacturing machine, but can anybody shed some light as to what I am looking at here?
                

                Why are they using an isolating transformer rather than just a standard flux capacitor?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  Guy claims that he is confident in his Java skills, but then doesn't even know what language he's dealing with!!

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @EddieJennings
                    last edited by Obsolesce

                    @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                    @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                    Literal excerpt from a ticket.

                    
                    Need your assistance with the following connection for the equipment to be delivered and installed Dec. 09 
                    
                    Due to the built-in servo amplifier and frequency converter the 
                    machines can not be connected directly to an IT network. 
                    The IT network must be converted to a TN-S network by an isolating 
                    transformer. The machine is connected to the TN-S network.
                    
                    This is going to a manufacturing machine, but can anybody shed some light as to what I am looking at here?
                    

                    Why are they using an isolating transformer rather than just a standard flux capacitor?

                    Because, the flux capacitor can only be put in with a left-handed screw driver. Most people don't have those.

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                    • EddieJenningsE
                      EddieJennings @Obsolesce
                      last edited by

                      @tim_g said in I can't even:

                      @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                      @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                      Literal excerpt from a ticket.

                      
                      Need your assistance with the following connection for the equipment to be delivered and installed Dec. 09 
                      
                      Due to the built-in servo amplifier and frequency converter the 
                      machines can not be connected directly to an IT network. 
                      The IT network must be converted to a TN-S network by an isolating 
                      transformer. The machine is connected to the TN-S network.
                      
                      This is going to a manufacturing machine, but can anybody shed some light as to what I am looking at here?
                      

                      Why are they using an isolating transformer rather than just a standard flux capacitor?

                      Because the flux capacitor can only be put in with a left-handed screw driver. Most people don['t have those.

                      You're getting a raw deal. My vendor said my flux capacitor can be installed with both types of screw drivers.

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                      • EddieJenningsE
                        EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by EddieJennings

                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                        Guy claims that he is confident in his Java skills, but then doesn't even know what language he's dealing with!!

                        passing through "doesn't know anything" filter

                        I have no insight for this one.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @EddieJennings
                          last edited by

                          @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                          @tim_g said in I can't even:

                          @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                          @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                          Literal excerpt from a ticket.

                          
                          Need your assistance with the following connection for the equipment to be delivered and installed Dec. 09 
                          
                          Due to the built-in servo amplifier and frequency converter the 
                          machines can not be connected directly to an IT network. 
                          The IT network must be converted to a TN-S network by an isolating 
                          transformer. The machine is connected to the TN-S network.
                          
                          This is going to a manufacturing machine, but can anybody shed some light as to what I am looking at here?
                          

                          Why are they using an isolating transformer rather than just a standard flux capacitor?

                          Because the flux capacitor can only be put in with a left-handed screw driver. Most people don['t have those.

                          You're getting a raw deal. My vendor said my flux capacitor can be installed with both types of screw drivers.

                          I think your vendor is just trying to make a sale...

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @EddieJennings
                            last edited by

                            @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                            @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                            Literal excerpt from a ticket.

                            
                            Need your assistance with the following connection for the equipment to be delivered and installed Dec. 09 
                            
                            Due to the built-in servo amplifier and frequency converter the 
                            machines can not be connected directly to an IT network. 
                            The IT network must be converted to a TN-S network by an isolating 
                            transformer. The machine is connected to the TN-S network.
                            
                            This is going to a manufacturing machine, but can anybody shed some light as to what I am looking at here?
                            

                            Why are they using an isolating transformer rather than just a standard flux capacitor?

                            That is electrical terminology. TN-S is the typical 2 wire plus ground standard in the US. It has nothing to do with networking. To confuse things, they do use the term network to mean electrical network.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                              last edited by Obsolesce

                              @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                              @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                              @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                              Literal excerpt from a ticket.

                              
                              Need your assistance with the following connection for the equipment to be delivered and installed Dec. 09 
                              
                              Due to the built-in servo amplifier and frequency converter the 
                              machines can not be connected directly to an IT network. 
                              The IT network must be converted to a TN-S network by an isolating 
                              transformer. The machine is connected to the TN-S network.
                              
                              This is going to a manufacturing machine, but can anybody shed some light as to what I am looking at here?
                              

                              Why are they using an isolating transformer rather than just a standard flux capacitor?

                              That is electrical terminology. TN-S is the typical 2 wire plus ground standard in the US. It has nothing to do with networking. To confuse things, they do use the term network to mean electrical network.

                              So by "IT network" and "network", what they really meant was electrical sockets and electrical network?

                              No wonder they submitted an IT ticket.

                              Their vendor has no idea whey they are saying.

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @NerdyDad
                                last edited by MattSpeller

                                @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                                Literal excerpt from a ticket.

                                
                                Need your assistance with the following connection for the equipment to be delivered and installed Dec. 09 
                                
                                Due to the built-in servo amplifier and frequency converter the 
                                machines can not be connected directly to an IT network. 
                                The IT network must be converted to a TN-S network by an isolating 
                                transformer. The machine is connected to the TN-S network.
                                
                                This is going to a manufacturing machine, but can anybody shed some light as to what I am looking at here?
                                

                                My best translation from wanna be engineer wank:

                                This thing is going to put out the motherload of interference and it will scramble the shit out of any standard RJ45. Please help.

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                                • EddieJenningsE
                                  EddieJennings @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                                  @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                  @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                                  Literal excerpt from a ticket.

                                  
                                  Need your assistance with the following connection for the equipment to be delivered and installed Dec. 09 
                                  
                                  Due to the built-in servo amplifier and frequency converter the 
                                  machines can not be connected directly to an IT network. 
                                  The IT network must be converted to a TN-S network by an isolating 
                                  transformer. The machine is connected to the TN-S network.
                                  
                                  This is going to a manufacturing machine, but can anybody shed some light as to what I am looking at here?
                                  

                                  Why are they using an isolating transformer rather than just a standard flux capacitor?

                                  That is electrical terminology. TN-S is the typical 2 wire plus ground standard in the US. It has nothing to do with networking. To confuse things, they do use the term network to mean electrical network.

                                  Dad! Why do you have to spoil my fun? 😛

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Turns out that he literally asked for everything backwards. Everything he wanted to migrate he didn't mention, and everything he wanted to keep the same he said he wanted to migrate!

                                    https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2093268-migrate-access-queries-forms-to-sql

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                                    • EddieJenningsE
                                      EddieJennings
                                      last edited by EddieJennings

                                      I was just about to post today's gem, when another, greater gem appeared.

                                      Ticket: Person called office; entered X extension; rather than dialing X extension call was routed back to the main IVR.

                                      Resolution: Disabled X's extensions's call forwarding which was setup to forward their calls to our toll-free number, which is answered by the main IVR.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @EddieJennings
                                        last edited by

                                        @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                        I was just about to post today's gem, when another, greater gem appeared.

                                        Ticket: Person called office; entered X extension; rather than dialing X extension call was routed back to the main IVR.

                                        Resolution: Disabled X's extensions's call forwarding which was setup to forward their calls to our toll-free number, which is answered by the main IVR.

                                        Correct Resolution: Disable Voicemail and Call forwarding for the user.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          Wow, no responses yet so maybe it'll improve once he does, but damn...

                                          VDI that they can't support, QNAP with SSD for seven hosts!!, Hyper-V 2012 (not even R2), Hyper-V as a role, Windows 7 still, etc. Claims "no budget" but is clearly so flushed with money that they are buying just anything and not worried at all about being cost effective.

                                          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2094013-best-practice-tips-for-vhdx-vm-storage-hyper-v-2012

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller It looks like they have tons of money from that list you just mentioned.

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