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    Water Closet
    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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      @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

      @coliver said in I can't even:

      @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

      First post, claims to make over 100K and is wondering if he should ask for more money as he works for a non-profit, and has be the sole person managing all of these massive projects.

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      Why wouldn't he ask for more money? Sole person at a 2500 employee company. I'd be asking for more money too.

      Sole person in a non-profit business and doing all of those supposed tasks. Either he's lying (likely) or he's a complete jackass for not properly negotiating his income.

      Depends on how many sites he covers. He might be able to do that with vendor assistance while covering a single building.

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      • coliverC
        coliver @DustinB3403
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        @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

        @coliver said in I can't even:

        @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

        First post, claims to make over 100K and is wondering if he should ask for more money as he works for a non-profit, and has be the sole person managing all of these massive projects.

        0_1504206763428_chrome_2017-08-31_15-12-36.png

        Why wouldn't he ask for more money? Sole person at a 2500 employee company. I'd be asking for more money too.

        Sole person in a non-profit business and doing all of those supposed tasks. Either he's lying (likely) or he's a complete jackass for not properly negotiating his income.

        Maybe, I can't really take it at anything other then face value. If he's lying then so be it. But if he's telling the truth he has every right to ask for more money. Or move along if they don't offer him more.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @coliver
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          @coliver said in I can't even:

          @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

          First post, claims to make over 100K and is wondering if he should ask for more money as he works for a non-profit, and has be the sole person managing all of these massive projects.

          0_1504206763428_chrome_2017-08-31_15-12-36.png

          Why wouldn't he ask for more money? Sole person at a 2500 employee company. I'd be asking for more money too.

          Size of company or number of IT staff is not really relevant.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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            @wirestyle22 said in I can't even:

            @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

            @coliver said in I can't even:

            @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

            First post, claims to make over 100K and is wondering if he should ask for more money as he works for a non-profit, and has be the sole person managing all of these massive projects.

            0_1504206763428_chrome_2017-08-31_15-12-36.png

            Why wouldn't he ask for more money? Sole person at a 2500 employee company. I'd be asking for more money too.

            Sole person in a non-profit business and doing all of those supposed tasks. Either he's lying (likely) or he's a complete jackass for not properly negotiating his income.

            Depends on how many sites he covers. He might be able to do that with vendor assistance while covering a single building.

            Not really sole IT guy then.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

              @coliver said in I can't even:

              @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

              First post, claims to make over 100K and is wondering if he should ask for more money as he works for a non-profit, and has be the sole person managing all of these massive projects.

              0_1504206763428_chrome_2017-08-31_15-12-36.png

              Why wouldn't he ask for more money? Sole person at a 2500 employee company. I'd be asking for more money too.

              Size of company or number of IT staff is not really relevant.

              He said in the topic (later on) he was the sole person implementing and defining all systems for the organization. So really he is a sys admin.

              So the title is complete BS has director implies he has a team who reports to him. He dictates what the goals should be, and sells to the board so his team can implement.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                @coliver said in I can't even:

                @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                First post, claims to make over 100K and is wondering if he should ask for more money as he works for a non-profit, and has be the sole person managing all of these massive projects.

                0_1504206763428_chrome_2017-08-31_15-12-36.png

                Why wouldn't he ask for more money? Sole person at a 2500 employee company. I'd be asking for more money too.

                Size of company or number of IT staff is not really relevant.

                He said in the topic (later on) he was the sole person implementing and defining all systems for the organization. So really he is a sys admin.

                Implementing and defining are really engineering. Operating them is system admin. But I get the point. However, he's doing tons of other things too, as he's the sole guy. So... he's a generalist. There is no way to be a sole IT guy and be anything but a generalist.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  He has a false title, totally fake, and is using that as his logic for why he needs a raise. He's a "junior tech" most likely, in a non-profit.

                  None of those tasks that he lists are a big deal. Those are often small one or two day projects. Over the course of a year, that's not an impressive list in any way.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller which he already makes a decent salary, just under $100K.

                    I'd be pretty happy with that, I think.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                      @scottalanmiller which he already makes a decent salary, just under $100K.

                      I'd be pretty happy with that, I think.

                      Depends on the market. Manhattan, even at a non-profit that's only so good. In Missouri, he's doing great. So very much depends.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Loads of non-profits base out of San Fran and that makes $99K below the poverty level.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                          Loads of non-profits base out of San Fran and that makes $99K below the poverty level.

                          Only because of the ridiculous housing costs in the big California cities. If you want anything decent that isn't run-down and in the ghetto in between a liquor store and Papa Johns, you're paying at least $2,500 for a small but livable 2 bedroom apartment. It's horrible and should be illegal to charge like that. The price goes up steeply for larger places with more bedrooms.

                          It's much harder than you think to get a wage higher than the poverty level without being a lawyer, doctor, or executive.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @Obsolesce
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                            @tim_g said in I can't even:

                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                            Loads of non-profits base out of San Fran and that makes $99K below the poverty level.

                            Only because of the ridiculous housing costs in the big California cities. If you want anything decent that isn't run-down and in the ghetto in between a liquor store and Papa Johns, you're paying at least $2,500 for a small but livable 2 bedroom apartment. It's horrible and should be illegal to charge like that. The price goes up steeply for larger places with more bedrooms.

                            It's much harder than you think to get a wage higher than the poverty level without being a lawyer, doctor, or executive.

                            where, do you mean in Cali?

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @Dashrender
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                              @dashrender said in I can't even:

                              @tim_g said in I can't even:

                              @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                              Loads of non-profits base out of San Fran and that makes $99K below the poverty level.

                              Only because of the ridiculous housing costs in the big California cities. If you want anything decent that isn't run-down and in the ghetto in between a liquor store and Papa Johns, you're paying at least $2,500 for a small but livable 2 bedroom apartment. It's horrible and should be illegal to charge like that. The price goes up steeply for larger places with more bedrooms.

                              It's much harder than you think to get a wage higher than the poverty level without being a lawyer, doctor, or executive.

                              where, do you mean in Cali?

                              LA, SF, SD... any nice city. Basically anywhere people want to be, they take advantage of that and charge 500% what it should be.

                              Oh, misread... yes in California. But other places too like NY, NY and such.

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce
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                                If I could take my current wage, and live in Mississippi, I'd be golden!

                                But, I would never want to live there.... so yeah.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                  Loads of non-profits base out of San Fran and that makes $99K below the poverty level.

                                  Only because of the ridiculous housing costs in the big California cities. If you want anything decent that isn't run-down and in the ghetto in between a liquor store and Papa Johns, you're paying at least $2,500 for a small but livable 2 bedroom apartment. It's horrible and should be illegal to charge like that. The price goes up steeply for larger places with more bedrooms.

                                  It's much harder than you think to get a wage higher than the poverty level without being a lawyer, doctor, or executive.

                                  IT in SF does pretty well. Probably more than most lawyers 🙂

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @Obsolesce
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                                    @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                    @dashrender said in I can't even:

                                    @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                    Loads of non-profits base out of San Fran and that makes $99K below the poverty level.

                                    Only because of the ridiculous housing costs in the big California cities. If you want anything decent that isn't run-down and in the ghetto in between a liquor store and Papa Johns, you're paying at least $2,500 for a small but livable 2 bedroom apartment. It's horrible and should be illegal to charge like that. The price goes up steeply for larger places with more bedrooms.

                                    It's much harder than you think to get a wage higher than the poverty level without being a lawyer, doctor, or executive.

                                    where, do you mean in Cali?

                                    LA, SF, SD... any nice city. Basically anywhere people want to be, they take advantage of that and charge 500% what it should be.

                                    Oh, misread... yes in California. But other places too like NY, NY and such.

                                    I guess I don't see anyone taking advantage of anything - it's called supply and demand. There is way more demand that there is supply, so the prices are high. Where's the issue?

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                      @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                      Loads of non-profits base out of San Fran and that makes $99K below the poverty level.

                                      Only because of the ridiculous housing costs in the big California cities. If you want anything decent that isn't run-down and in the ghetto in between a liquor store and Papa Johns, you're paying at least $2,500 for a small but livable 2 bedroom apartment. It's horrible and should be illegal to charge like that. The price goes up steeply for larger places with more bedrooms.

                                      It's much harder than you think to get a wage higher than the poverty level without being a lawyer, doctor, or executive.

                                      IT in SF does pretty well. Probably more than most lawyers 🙂

                                      I never worked or job hunted there, so I wouldn't know. But I'll keep that in mind lol.

                                      But seriously, if I'm making millions a year, I would still HATE paying ridiculous pricing for housing. If I pay $5k per month for an apartment, the glass better be made of diamonds, and walls of gold, beach front property with a helicopter and pilot for work commuting.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @Obsolesce
                                        last edited by

                                        @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        Loads of non-profits base out of San Fran and that makes $99K below the poverty level.

                                        Only because of the ridiculous housing costs in the big California cities. If you want anything decent that isn't run-down and in the ghetto in between a liquor store and Papa Johns, you're paying at least $2,500 for a small but livable 2 bedroom apartment. It's horrible and should be illegal to charge like that. The price goes up steeply for larger places with more bedrooms.

                                        It's much harder than you think to get a wage higher than the poverty level without being a lawyer, doctor, or executive.

                                        IT in SF does pretty well. Probably more than most lawyers 🙂

                                        I never worked or job hunted there, so I wouldn't know. But I'll keep that in mind lol.

                                        But seriously, if I'm making millions a year, I would still HATE paying ridiculous pricing for housing. If I pay $5k per month for an apartment, the glass better be made of diamonds, and walls of gold, beach front property with a helicopter and pilot for work commuting.

                                        LOL the fact that a beach is nearby apparently is meaningless to you 😛

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @dashrender said in I can't even:

                                          @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                          @dashrender said in I can't even:

                                          @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                          Loads of non-profits base out of San Fran and that makes $99K below the poverty level.

                                          Only because of the ridiculous housing costs in the big California cities. If you want anything decent that isn't run-down and in the ghetto in between a liquor store and Papa Johns, you're paying at least $2,500 for a small but livable 2 bedroom apartment. It's horrible and should be illegal to charge like that. The price goes up steeply for larger places with more bedrooms.

                                          It's much harder than you think to get a wage higher than the poverty level without being a lawyer, doctor, or executive.

                                          where, do you mean in Cali?

                                          LA, SF, SD... any nice city. Basically anywhere people want to be, they take advantage of that and charge 500% what it should be.

                                          Oh, misread... yes in California. But other places too like NY, NY and such.

                                          I guess I don't see anyone taking advantage of anything - it's called supply and demand. There is way more demand that there is supply, so the prices are high. Where's the issue?

                                          The supply is huge. There's tons of housing available.

                                          If you want to talk about low supply, look in Stockholm and surrounding cities. There's absolutely low supply of housing there but the prices are still more normal.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                            @dashrender said in I can't even:

                                            @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                            @dashrender said in I can't even:

                                            @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            Loads of non-profits base out of San Fran and that makes $99K below the poverty level.

                                            Only because of the ridiculous housing costs in the big California cities. If you want anything decent that isn't run-down and in the ghetto in between a liquor store and Papa Johns, you're paying at least $2,500 for a small but livable 2 bedroom apartment. It's horrible and should be illegal to charge like that. The price goes up steeply for larger places with more bedrooms.

                                            It's much harder than you think to get a wage higher than the poverty level without being a lawyer, doctor, or executive.

                                            where, do you mean in Cali?

                                            LA, SF, SD... any nice city. Basically anywhere people want to be, they take advantage of that and charge 500% what it should be.

                                            Oh, misread... yes in California. But other places too like NY, NY and such.

                                            I guess I don't see anyone taking advantage of anything - it's called supply and demand. There is way more demand that there is supply, so the prices are high. Where's the issue?

                                            The supply is huge. There's tons of housing available.

                                            If you want to talk about low supply, look in Stockholm and surrounding cities. There's absolutely low supply of housing there but the prices are still more normal.

                                            In the good/desirable areas? Seems unlikely.

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