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@eddiejennings said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@bigbear said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@bigbear said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@bigbear said in I can't even:
@eddiejennings said in I can't even:
@bigbear said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal
Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.
From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).
Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.
That's unique to RDS, nothing like Server CALs.
Right but he is talking about user/connection CALs...
Best to call them Windows Server CALs. There is no connection CAL.
User/Device not connection... sorry
Those are the ways you can license the CALs. But there are Server CALs specifically that he is talking about. Even though he doesn't know the name of them.
Yeah. I get loose with my language about CALs when I say user and device CALs.
It's tough because it is "User Server CALs" and "Device Server CALs."
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And most people think that it is just SMB protocol or AD that needs CALs, but it is everything. From DNS and DHCP to web apps running on the machine to people connection to Linux machines running as VMs on top of VirtualBox on top of Windows Server - because those are just "more apps on top" and not a special case. It's amazing how many ways people connect to servers and don't acknowledge it.
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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
And most people think that it is just SMB protocol or AD that needs CALs, but it is everything. From DNS and DHCP to web apps running on the machine to people connection to Linux machines running as VMs on top of VirtualBox on top of Windows Server - because those are just "more apps on top" and not a special case. It's amazing how many ways people connect to servers and don't acknowledge it.
When explaining that, I can usually mitigate the panic by letting folks know that having a Windows Server CAL covers you for pretty much all the services. Getting a CAL for User A means they can use SMB shares, AD, DNS, etc. without having to have a separate CAL for each service. ... Then we get to Exchange
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@eddiejennings said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
And most people think that it is just SMB protocol or AD that needs CALs, but it is everything. From DNS and DHCP to web apps running on the machine to people connection to Linux machines running as VMs on top of VirtualBox on top of Windows Server - because those are just "more apps on top" and not a special case. It's amazing how many ways people connect to servers and don't acknowledge it.
When explaining that, I can usually mitigate the panic by letting folks know that having a Windows Server CAL covers you for pretty much all the services. Getting a CAL for User A means they can use SMB shares, AD, DNS, etc. without having to have a separate CAL for each service. ... Then we get to Exchange
LOL, and that makes them feel better? People are seriously sheep.
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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
@eddiejennings said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
And most people think that it is just SMB protocol or AD that needs CALs, but it is everything. From DNS and DHCP to web apps running on the machine to people connection to Linux machines running as VMs on top of VirtualBox on top of Windows Server - because those are just "more apps on top" and not a special case. It's amazing how many ways people connect to servers and don't acknowledge it.
When explaining that, I can usually mitigate the panic by letting folks know that having a Windows Server CAL covers you for pretty much all the services. Getting a CAL for User A means they can use SMB shares, AD, DNS, etc. without having to have a separate CAL for each service. ... Then we get to Exchange
LOL, and that makes them feel better? People are seriously sheep.
Yeah, because they start thinking the need separate CALs for everything. They think they're "getting a deal" with this one CAL covering X stuff
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unfortunately, dealing with UEFI sometimes makes things not boot, so I'm not surprised by this question.
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@dashrender said in I can't even:
unfortunately, dealing with UEFI sometimes makes things not boot, so I'm not surprised by this question.
Picture is a link. He posted a screenshot that is obvious he is choosing upgrade.
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@dashrender said in I can't even:
unfortunately, dealing with UEFI sometimes makes things not boot, so I'm not surprised by this question.
Also he clearly stated in the thread that no media worked which is patently false. If no media worked then windows would not boot either.
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@jaredbusch said in I can't even:
@dashrender said in I can't even:
unfortunately, dealing with UEFI sometimes makes things not boot, so I'm not surprised by this question.
Also he clearly stated in the thread that no media worked which is patently false. If no media worked then windows would not boot either.
/sigh.. now you're reading is things like you claim Scott does - It's pretty obvious he's talking about other media - DVD or USB thumbdrive.
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@jaredbusch what the.....
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@dashrender said in I can't even:
@jaredbusch said in I can't even:
@dashrender said in I can't even:
unfortunately, dealing with UEFI sometimes makes things not boot, so I'm not surprised by this question.
Also he clearly stated in the thread that no media worked which is patently false. If no media worked then windows would not boot either.
/sigh.. now you're reading is things like you claim Scott does - It's pretty obvious he's talking about other media - DVD or USB thumbdrive.
but then his picture clearly shows it's booting from the install media.. so WTH?
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From my SW browsing today:
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@eddiejennings said in I can't even:
From my SW browsing today:
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2087899-common-server-practiceThat was moderation when I first looked. That’s a rough one.
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He's certain what licensing he is going to buy, but has no idea what licenses are needed. Um, how can he be so sure what he wants if he doesn't even know how it works?
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2088407-correct-licenses-for-my-virtual-environment
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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
He's certain what licensing he is going to buy, but has no idea what licenses are needed. Um, how can he be so sure what he wants if he doesn't even know how it works?
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2088407-correct-licenses-for-my-virtual-environment
How do you make yourself reply to those? I just never feel like it... mostly because we've already posted the same info so many times already.
