I can't even

dave247

@dave247 said in I can't even:

What does IoT even mean in this case? I've always been unclear on it..

IoT is not a real term, it doesn't mean anything specific. It's a loose reference to devices that you'd not expect to be computing devices that are networked, but are. POS doesn't fall into that category. Your toaster, microwave, or fridge would. A sensor in your attic might. Thermostats really can't be considered this any longer, they are full computing devices and expected to be so, now. So they've left IoT, IMHO.

IoT is a useless term based around the cluelessness or expectations of the observer. It is always subjective and can't be used in any technical context.

Lmao, I love it. I always though it seemed like an odd/vague term.

scottalanmiller

@dave247 said in I can't even:

@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

@dave247 said in I can't even:

What does IoT even mean in this case? I've always been unclear on it..

IoT is not a real term, it doesn't mean anything specific. It's a loose reference to devices that you'd not expect to be computing devices that are networked, but are. POS doesn't fall into that category. Your toaster, microwave, or fridge would. A sensor in your attic might. Thermostats really can't be considered this any longer, they are full computing devices and expected to be so, now. So they've left IoT, IMHO.

IoT is a useless term based around the cluelessness or expectations of the observer. It is always subjective and can't be used in any technical context.

Lmao, I love it. I always though it seemed like an odd/vague term.

I need to make a video on it.

EddieJennings

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

I can run yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy.

NerdyDad

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy.

FTFY

EddieJennings

@nerdydad said in I can't even:

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy.

FTFY

Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business.

JaredBusch

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

@nerdydad said in I can't even:

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy.

FTFY

Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business.

any how come none of you asshats tagged me in that thread!! /hate /grumble /wtfever

NerdyDad

@jaredbusch said in I can't even:

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

@nerdydad said in I can't even:

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy.

FTFY

Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business.

any how come none of you asshats tagged me in that thread!! /hate /grumble /wtfever

I assumed it was beneath your paygrade.

JaredBusch

@nerdydad said in I can't even:

@jaredbusch said in I can't even:

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

@nerdydad said in I can't even:

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy.

FTFY

Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business.

any how come none of you asshats tagged me in that thread!! /hate /grumble /wtfever

I assumed it was beneath your paygrade.

I actually didn't read all the posts. Just added on tot he pile to not call local.
THen invited her to come out to the local SPiceCorp meetup tonight.

NerdyDad

@jaredbusch said in I can't even:

@nerdydad said in I can't even:

@jaredbusch said in I can't even:

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

@nerdydad said in I can't even:

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy.

FTFY

Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business.

any how come none of you asshats tagged me in that thread!! /hate /grumble /wtfever

I assumed it was beneath your paygrade.

I actually didn't read all the posts. Just added on tot he pile to not call local.
THen invited her to come out to the local SPiceCorp meetup tonight.

I didn't even touch that thread. All I know is what is in this thread.

scottalanmiller

@jaredbusch said in I can't even:

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

@nerdydad said in I can't even:

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy.

FTFY

Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business.

any how come none of you asshats tagged me in that thread!! /hate /grumble /wtfever

She was being weird, I didn't want to subject anyone to that. LOL

scottalanmiller

Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

EddieJennings

@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

"What exactly is a CAL?"

A reason not to use Windows.

bigbear

@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

EddieJennings

@bigbear said in I can't even:

@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

scottalanmiller

@bigbear said in I can't even:

@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

It doesn't govern them AT ALL. And you need CALs regardless of the size of your environment, so size doesn't matter. He claims to have used Windows Server and that means he has to know CALs (either because he directly had to buy them or he had to choose Windows Server versions that specifically allowed him to work without them.) It's that you install Windows Server is the act that requires that you be aware of CALs.

scottalanmiller

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

@bigbear said in I can't even:

@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

Correct, CALs are paper and it's a human requirement to be on top of them - making it that much more acute how much he wasn't doing his job as the admin.

bigbear

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

@bigbear said in I can't even:

@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

scottalanmiller

@bigbear said in I can't even:

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

@bigbear said in I can't even:

@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

That's unique to RDS, nothing like Server CALs.

bigbear

@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

@bigbear said in I can't even:

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

@bigbear said in I can't even:

@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

That's unique to RDS, nothing like Server CALs.

Right but he is talking about user/connection CALs, which you can configure on the server to keep yourself compliant. But it wont stop you from using excess connections if you dont configure it.

scottalanmiller

@bigbear said in I can't even:

@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

@bigbear said in I can't even:

@eddiejennings said in I can't even:

@bigbear said in I can't even:

@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

That's unique to RDS, nothing like Server CALs.

Right but he is talking about user/connection CALs, which you can configure on the server to keep yourself compliant. But it wont stop you from using excess connections if you dont configure it.

Can, but if he configured them on the server, then he's have been aware of them. And that's purely a voluntary step, it's not a requirement or automated in any way. It's not even obvious that that exists. You have to go looking for it.