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    Water Closet
    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • dave247D
      dave247 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085058-is-windows-10-iot-os-secured-enough-to-be-deployed-in-your-organisation

      when no IoT exists, and people fearing Windows 10 compared to 7. WTF people?

      What does IoT even mean in this case? I've always been unclear on it..

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @dave247
        last edited by

        @dave247 said in I can't even:

        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

        https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085058-is-windows-10-iot-os-secured-enough-to-be-deployed-in-your-organisation

        when no IoT exists, and people fearing Windows 10 compared to 7. WTF people?

        What does IoT even mean in this case? I've always been unclear on it..

        IoT is the name of the OS version. There is no IoT involved in his use case.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @dave247
          last edited by

          @dave247 said in I can't even:

          What does IoT even mean in this case? I've always been unclear on it..

          IoT is not a real term, it doesn't mean anything specific. It's a loose reference to devices that you'd not expect to be computing devices that are networked, but are. POS doesn't fall into that category. Your toaster, microwave, or fridge would. A sensor in your attic might. Thermostats really can't be considered this any longer, they are full computing devices and expected to be so, now. So they've left IoT, IMHO.

          IoT is a useless term based around the cluelessness or expectations of the observer. It is always subjective and can't be used in any technical context.

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          • dave247D
            dave247 @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

            @dave247 said in I can't even:

            What does IoT even mean in this case? I've always been unclear on it..

            IoT is not a real term, it doesn't mean anything specific. It's a loose reference to devices that you'd not expect to be computing devices that are networked, but are. POS doesn't fall into that category. Your toaster, microwave, or fridge would. A sensor in your attic might. Thermostats really can't be considered this any longer, they are full computing devices and expected to be so, now. So they've left IoT, IMHO.

            IoT is a useless term based around the cluelessness or expectations of the observer. It is always subjective and can't be used in any technical context.

            Lmao, I love it. I always though it seemed like an odd/vague term.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @dave247
              last edited by

              @dave247 said in I can't even:

              @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

              @dave247 said in I can't even:

              What does IoT even mean in this case? I've always been unclear on it..

              IoT is not a real term, it doesn't mean anything specific. It's a loose reference to devices that you'd not expect to be computing devices that are networked, but are. POS doesn't fall into that category. Your toaster, microwave, or fridge would. A sensor in your attic might. Thermostats really can't be considered this any longer, they are full computing devices and expected to be so, now. So they've left IoT, IMHO.

              IoT is a useless term based around the cluelessness or expectations of the observer. It is always subjective and can't be used in any technical context.

              Lmao, I love it. I always though it seemed like an odd/vague term.

              I need to make a video on it.

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              • EddieJenningsE
                EddieJennings
                last edited by

                https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

                I can run yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy. 😄

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                • NerdyDadN
                  NerdyDad @EddieJennings
                  last edited by

                  @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                  https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

                  I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy. 😄

                  FTFY

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                  • EddieJenningsE
                    EddieJennings @NerdyDad
                    last edited by

                    @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                    @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                    https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

                    I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy. 😄

                    FTFY

                    Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business. 😛

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @EddieJennings
                      last edited by

                      @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                      @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                      @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

                      I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy. 😄

                      FTFY

                      Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business. 😛

                      any how come none of you asshats tagged me in that thread!! /hate /grumble /wtfever

                      🙂

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                      • NerdyDadN
                        NerdyDad @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                        @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                        @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                        @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                        https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

                        I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy. 😄

                        FTFY

                        Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business. 😛

                        any how come none of you asshats tagged me in that thread!! /hate /grumble /wtfever

                        🙂

                        I assumed it was beneath your paygrade. 😉

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @NerdyDad
                          last edited by

                          @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                          @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                          @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                          @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                          @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

                          I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy. 😄

                          FTFY

                          Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business. 😛

                          any how come none of you asshats tagged me in that thread!! /hate /grumble /wtfever

                          🙂

                          I assumed it was beneath your paygrade. 😉

                          I actually didn't read all the posts. Just added on tot he pile to not call local.
                          THen invited her to come out to the local SPiceCorp meetup tonight.

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                          • NerdyDadN
                            NerdyDad @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                            @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                            @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                            @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                            @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                            @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                            https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

                            I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy. 😄

                            FTFY

                            Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business. 😛

                            any how come none of you asshats tagged me in that thread!! /hate /grumble /wtfever

                            🙂

                            I assumed it was beneath your paygrade. 😉

                            I actually didn't read all the posts. Just added on tot he pile to not call local.
                            THen invited her to come out to the local SPiceCorp meetup tonight.

                            I didn't even touch that thread. All I know is what is in this thread.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                              @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                              @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                              @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                              https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

                              I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy. 😄

                              FTFY

                              Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business. 😛

                              any how come none of you asshats tagged me in that thread!! /hate /grumble /wtfever

                              🙂

                              She was being weird, I didn't want to subject anyone to that. LOL

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                                https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

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                                • EddieJenningsE
                                  EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                  Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                                  https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                                  "What exactly is a CAL?"

                                  A reason not to use Windows.

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                                  • bigbearB
                                    bigbear @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                    Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                                    https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                                    Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

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                                    • EddieJenningsE
                                      EddieJennings @bigbear
                                      last edited by

                                      @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                      Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                                      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                                      Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                                      From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @bigbear
                                        last edited by

                                        @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                                        https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                                        Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                                        It doesn't govern them AT ALL. And you need CALs regardless of the size of your environment, so size doesn't matter. He claims to have used Windows Server and that means he has to know CALs (either because he directly had to buy them or he had to choose Windows Server versions that specifically allowed him to work without them.) It's that you install Windows Server is the act that requires that you be aware of CALs.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                                          last edited by

                                          @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                          @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                          Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                                          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                                          Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                                          From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

                                          Correct, CALs are paper and it's a human requirement to be on top of them - making it that much more acute how much he wasn't doing his job as the admin.

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                                          • bigbearB
                                            bigbear @EddieJennings
                                            last edited by

                                            @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                            @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                                            https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                                            Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                                            From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

                                            Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

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