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    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @NerdyDad
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      @nerdydad said in I can't even:

      @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

      @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

      @nerdydad said in I can't even:

      @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

      I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy. 😄

      FTFY

      Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business. 😛

      any how come none of you asshats tagged me in that thread!! /hate /grumble /wtfever

      🙂

      I assumed it was beneath your paygrade. 😉

      I actually didn't read all the posts. Just added on tot he pile to not call local.
      THen invited her to come out to the local SPiceCorp meetup tonight.

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      • NerdyDadN
        NerdyDad @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

        @nerdydad said in I can't even:

        @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

        @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

        @nerdydad said in I can't even:

        @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

        https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

        I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy. 😄

        FTFY

        Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business. 😛

        any how come none of you asshats tagged me in that thread!! /hate /grumble /wtfever

        🙂

        I assumed it was beneath your paygrade. 😉

        I actually didn't read all the posts. Just added on tot he pile to not call local.
        THen invited her to come out to the local SPiceCorp meetup tonight.

        I didn't even touch that thread. All I know is what is in this thread.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

          @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

          @nerdydad said in I can't even:

          @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2081111-looking-for-local-centos-support

          I can run sudo yum update -y. I should be her CentOS guy. 😄

          FTFY

          Nah. I'd just have her machine setup so I could SSH in as root. Nobody has time for that sudo business. 😛

          any how come none of you asshats tagged me in that thread!! /hate /grumble /wtfever

          🙂

          She was being weird, I didn't want to subject anyone to that. LOL

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

            https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

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            • EddieJenningsE
              EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

              Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

              https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

              "What exactly is a CAL?"

              A reason not to use Windows.

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              • bigbearB
                bigbear @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

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                • EddieJenningsE
                  EddieJennings @bigbear
                  last edited by

                  @bigbear said in I can't even:

                  @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                  Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                  https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                  Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                  From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @bigbear
                    last edited by

                    @bigbear said in I can't even:

                    @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                    Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                    https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                    Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                    It doesn't govern them AT ALL. And you need CALs regardless of the size of your environment, so size doesn't matter. He claims to have used Windows Server and that means he has to know CALs (either because he directly had to buy them or he had to choose Windows Server versions that specifically allowed him to work without them.) It's that you install Windows Server is the act that requires that you be aware of CALs.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                      last edited by

                      @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                      @bigbear said in I can't even:

                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                      Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                      Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                      From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

                      Correct, CALs are paper and it's a human requirement to be on top of them - making it that much more acute how much he wasn't doing his job as the admin.

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                      • bigbearB
                        bigbear @EddieJennings
                        last edited by

                        @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                        @bigbear said in I can't even:

                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                        Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                        https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                        Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                        From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

                        Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @bigbear
                          last edited by

                          @bigbear said in I can't even:

                          @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                          @bigbear said in I can't even:

                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                          Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                          Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                          From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

                          Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

                          That's unique to RDS, nothing like Server CALs.

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                          • bigbearB
                            bigbear @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                            @bigbear said in I can't even:

                            @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                            @bigbear said in I can't even:

                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                            Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                            https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                            Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                            From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

                            Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

                            That's unique to RDS, nothing like Server CALs.

                            Right but he is talking about user/connection CALs, which you can configure on the server to keep yourself compliant. But it wont stop you from using excess connections if you dont configure it.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @bigbear
                              last edited by

                              @bigbear said in I can't even:

                              @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                              @bigbear said in I can't even:

                              @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                              @bigbear said in I can't even:

                              @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                              Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                              https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                              Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                              From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

                              Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

                              That's unique to RDS, nothing like Server CALs.

                              Right but he is talking about user/connection CALs, which you can configure on the server to keep yourself compliant. But it wont stop you from using excess connections if you dont configure it.

                              Can, but if he configured them on the server, then he's have been aware of them. And that's purely a voluntary step, it's not a requirement or automated in any way. It's not even obvious that that exists. You have to go looking for it.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @bigbear
                                last edited by

                                @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                                https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                                Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                                From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

                                Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

                                That's unique to RDS, nothing like Server CALs.

                                Right but he is talking about user/connection CALs...

                                Best to call them Windows Server CALs. There is no connection CAL.

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                                • bigbearB
                                  bigbear @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                  @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                  @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                  @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                  @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                  Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                                  https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                                  Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                                  From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

                                  Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

                                  That's unique to RDS, nothing like Server CALs.

                                  Right but he is talking about user/connection CALs, which you can configure on the server to keep yourself compliant. But it wont stop you from using excess connections if you dont configure it.

                                  Can, but if he configured them on the server, then he's have been aware of them. And that's purely a voluntary step, it's not a requirement or automated in any way. It's not even obvious that that exists. You have to go looking for it.

                                  Right, but always felt it was odd compared to the way Microsoft enforces other licenses, Exchange is another example. Dont have them, they dont work.

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                                  • bigbearB
                                    bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                    @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                    @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                    @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                    @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                    Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                                    https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                                    Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                                    From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

                                    Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

                                    That's unique to RDS, nothing like Server CALs.

                                    Right but he is talking about user/connection CALs...

                                    Best to call them Windows Server CALs. There is no connection CAL.

                                    User/Device not connection... sorry

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @bigbear
                                      last edited by

                                      @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                      @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                      @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                      @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                      @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                      Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                                      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                                      Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                                      From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

                                      Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

                                      That's unique to RDS, nothing like Server CALs.

                                      Right but he is talking about user/connection CALs...

                                      Best to call them Windows Server CALs. There is no connection CAL.

                                      User/Device not connection... sorry

                                      Those are the ways you can license the CALs. But there are Server CALs specifically that he is talking about. Even though he doesn't know the name of them.

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                                      • EddieJenningsE
                                        EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                        @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                        @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                                        https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                                        Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                                        From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

                                        Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

                                        That's unique to RDS, nothing like Server CALs.

                                        Right but he is talking about user/connection CALs...

                                        Best to call them Windows Server CALs. There is no connection CAL.

                                        User/Device not connection... sorry

                                        Those are the ways you can license the CALs. But there are Server CALs specifically that he is talking about. Even though he doesn't know the name of them.

                                        Yeah. I get loose with my language about CALs when I say user and device CALs.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          And just found a thread where this guy is all concerned about security and his "friends" convinced him that if he used Azure that he could ignore all security when writing his application and deploying his database and that Microsoft would take care of anything. Talk about getting set up. That's full on social engineering right there.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                                            last edited by

                                            @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                            @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                            @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            Claims he knows nothing about what a CAL is. But also claims that he knows that he's never needed them. How he can know so little but then know so much... makes no sense. He's an IT Service Provider, but doesn't know the most basic things about using Windows.

                                            https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085827-what-exactly-is-a-cal

                                            Probably managing very small environments where he has never had more than 10 connections. I am not sure Windows Server governs CALs very closely, or at all if you dont configure it.

                                            From my experirence with Windows Server (not using remote desktop services), there's no technical limitations regarding CALs. It's pure licensing costs (and revenue).

                                            Like with RDS Cals, its stops working if you dont add them, but with user/connection Cals for clients I dont think its enforced. More of an issue if you get audited.

                                            That's unique to RDS, nothing like Server CALs.

                                            Right but he is talking about user/connection CALs...

                                            Best to call them Windows Server CALs. There is no connection CAL.

                                            User/Device not connection... sorry

                                            Those are the ways you can license the CALs. But there are Server CALs specifically that he is talking about. Even though he doesn't know the name of them.

                                            Yeah. I get loose with my language about CALs when I say user and device CALs.

                                            It's tough because it is "User Server CALs" and "Device Server CALs."

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