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      Veet
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      http://www.druva.com/products/insync/laptop-backup/

      would this work for you ?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Crashplan as well. If you are not going to cloud, then it is completely free.

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          scottalanmiller
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          If you want to go to cloud, Backblaze has a nice offering.

          @aaron

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            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in end user computer backups:

            If you want to go to cloud, Backblaze has a nice offering.

            @aaron

            I really found (for me) the key difference between the two was cost and storage length.

            BB is 50% cheaper for business ($5 versus $10) but only keeps deleted files and versions around for 30 days. CrashPlan keeps them indefinitely.

            Also note that if you are looking to do an image type bare metal restore these options are not what you are looking for.

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              If this was a priority, I would use roaming profiles on the server if in Windows/AD world.

              Pretty much works out the box, the user can just move sideways onto another computer quickly if there is an issue.

              The problem is not imaging the machines, the problem is the user preferences and settings. You don't want to store 150GB of disk image data for appdata and a few other items.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said in end user computer backups:

                Also note that if you are looking to do an image type bare metal restore these options are not what you are looking for.

                And if you are looking to do an image-based restore, you should step back and evaluate the needs at a higher level.

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                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in end user computer backups:

                  @BRRABill said in end user computer backups:

                  Also note that if you are looking to do an image type bare metal restore these options are not what you are looking for.

                  And if you are looking to do an image-based restore, you should step back and evaluate the needs at a higher level.

                  I was going to post that, but I didn't want to steal your thunder. 🙂

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                  • Mike DavisM
                    Mike Davis
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                    I agree with everything said. It basically comes down to one manager. His machine got infected, so we nuked it by reimaging it. 40 minutes later he had his new computer, but it took another 2 hours for Windows updates to catch up to current since the image was so old. Then he had to tweak all his apps. So then he asked for the computer backup.

                    I almost think firing off the user state migration tool every so often might solve his problem, but I have to put the numbers together to show it's going to be expensive to store and expensive to manage for something that would get used very rarely.

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                    • Mike DavisM
                      Mike Davis
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                      I thought of Veeam because I know I'll be able to bring it right back to where it was fairly quickly. The file level backups as some have noted, won't grab application settings.

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                      • DustinB3403D
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                        If you can drop the centrally managed part Create Synchronicity would likely work well for this. And it's free.

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                        • BrainsB
                          Brains @Mike Davis
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                          @Mike-Davis said in end user computer backups:

                          I agree with everything said. It basically comes down to one manager. His machine got infected, so we nuked it by reimaging it. 40 minutes later he had his new computer, but it took another 2 hours for Windows updates to catch up to current since the image was so old. Then he had to tweak all his apps. So then he asked for the computer backup.

                          I almost think firing off the user state migration tool every so often might solve his problem, but I have to put the numbers together to show it's going to be expensive to store and expensive to manage for something that would get used very rarely.

                          ahh! Maybe have 1 replacement machine ready to deploy at all times? Or loaner machines for temporary deployment? If a user's computer goes down, we have it replaced within 5 minutes. All common software is installed on the replacement machine when it is built and most of our users do not use alot of specialized software

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            It's a tradeoff that that manager should be tied to. How much cost and effort are they willing to put into speeding up a one time restore? Let's chronicle things here for perspective...

                            • Manager probably does something careless and gets infected (how did this happen, was he running as the administrator?)
                            • Manager needs his machine rebuilt and it takes two hours, cost consulting time and wasting management time.
                            • Manager triggers a project to mitigate the cost of repairing his own mistakes that is likely going to cost far more than the existing time needed to fix his mistakes turning his initial infection into a larger and larger financial hit to the company.

                            I see a trend.

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                              scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                              @Mike-Davis said in end user computer backups:

                              I thought of Veeam because I know I'll be able to bring it right back to where it was fairly quickly. The file level backups as some have noted, won't grab application settings.

                              Calculate the time to restore as well. You'll need fast storage to get back up and running quickly, and it will hit the network hard. Will it take fifteen minutes to restore? Forty five minutes? If it took two hours the first time, subtract this number from that one to get the delta. The delta is the benefit number.

                              Now figure out how often rebuilds happen. Once a month? One a year? Once every three years? Multiple the delta times that, that's the cost mitigation value of this project. How many hours are we talking about saving, per year, on average?

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                              • BRRABillB
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                                If it is just one person, you could set up a USB drive and use something like Macrium Reflect.

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                                    • MattSpellerM
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                                      • Don't save junk locally
                                      • Read up on good imaging software (Acronis, DIY microsoft stuff)
                                      • Don't save stuff locally
                                      • Get a hot spare for the office
                                      • Don't save stuff locally
                                      • Look into cloud solutions if you absolutely must save locally for some BS reason. I like Synology CloudSync but there are many other options.
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                                        BRRABill @MattSpeller
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                                        @MattSpeller

                                        Is saving locally an option?

                                        Seems like it might be,

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                                          MattSpeller @BRRABill
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                                          @BRRABill said in end user computer backups:

                                          @MattSpeller

                                          Is saving locally an option?

                                          Seems like it might be,

                                          McCTpH_E.jpg

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                                            gjacobse @MattSpeller
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                                            @MattSpeller said in end user computer backups:

                                            @BRRABill said in end user computer backups:

                                            @MattSpeller

                                            Is saving locally an option?

                                            Seems like it might be,

                                            McCTpH_E.jpg

                                            @MattSpeller I do not authorize you to use my mug shot..

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