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    • DashrenderD
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      @dafyre said

      I have never had any issues not putting them in... But make sure you understand what they are at a bare minimum... Bonus points if you know how to calculate them. 😄

      Bah, that's why we have the interwebs

      That's also why it's bonus points if you know how to calculate it. 😄

      I recall when I learned how to calculate it - for a while I just assumed anyone higher than me on the IT food chain must know this stuff - boy was I wrong.

      I know, right? The only reason I remember is because my CCNA prof made sure we knew how to do subnet calculations on paper from day one.

      I learned it when I was self learning Windows NT stuff. My company at the time was all Windows 3.1 and a bit Windows 95 with Netware on the servers. For some reason I really like NT 4.0 and bought some books and started learning.

      Out of all the Microsoft Server versions I've used over the years, 2000 was my favorite with NT4.0 only falling out of the favorite slot because of the tiny boot partition, even at that time 2GB was kinda small.

      I still prefer NT4 by far. 2000 was actually my least favourite.

      Well, I used Server 2000 for a desktop back in the pre XP days, just to have a stable platform to game on 😕 Linux/UNIX world was always so much more stable.

      Yes, I did the same thing. I moved to Windows 2000 as fast as possible. Win9x was so unstable...

      That wasn't the transition, though. The Windows 9x world was consumer, Windows NT was business. Windows 2000 was the continuation of the already most of a decade old NT family. So had you moved to the NT world "as soon as you could" you would have done so before Windows 95 even released. Windows ME was the continuation of the 9x family, Windows 2000 was NT 5. So you jumped mid-stream.

      Yes I know all that - I don't know why my office never really used NT3.51... we went from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows 2000 at that office.

      Even at home we went from 3.11 WfW to NT 🙂

      To NT 3?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @dafyre said

        I have never had any issues not putting them in... But make sure you understand what they are at a bare minimum... Bonus points if you know how to calculate them. 😄

        Bah, that's why we have the interwebs

        That's also why it's bonus points if you know how to calculate it. 😄

        I recall when I learned how to calculate it - for a while I just assumed anyone higher than me on the IT food chain must know this stuff - boy was I wrong.

        I know, right? The only reason I remember is because my CCNA prof made sure we knew how to do subnet calculations on paper from day one.

        I learned it when I was self learning Windows NT stuff. My company at the time was all Windows 3.1 and a bit Windows 95 with Netware on the servers. For some reason I really like NT 4.0 and bought some books and started learning.

        Out of all the Microsoft Server versions I've used over the years, 2000 was my favorite with NT4.0 only falling out of the favorite slot because of the tiny boot partition, even at that time 2GB was kinda small.

        I still prefer NT4 by far. 2000 was actually my least favourite.

        Well, I used Server 2000 for a desktop back in the pre XP days, just to have a stable platform to game on 😕 Linux/UNIX world was always so much more stable.

        Yes, I did the same thing. I moved to Windows 2000 as fast as possible. Win9x was so unstable...

        That wasn't the transition, though. The Windows 9x world was consumer, Windows NT was business. Windows 2000 was the continuation of the already most of a decade old NT family. So had you moved to the NT world "as soon as you could" you would have done so before Windows 95 even released. Windows ME was the continuation of the 9x family, Windows 2000 was NT 5. So you jumped mid-stream.

        Yes I know all that - I don't know why my office never really used NT3.51... we went from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows 2000 at that office.

        Even at home we went from 3.11 WfW to NT 🙂

        To NT 3?

        NT 3.1 was the first version and was roughly contemporary with 3.11. We went from 3.11 to NT 4.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @dafyre said

          I have never had any issues not putting them in... But make sure you understand what they are at a bare minimum... Bonus points if you know how to calculate them. 😄

          Bah, that's why we have the interwebs

          That's also why it's bonus points if you know how to calculate it. 😄

          I recall when I learned how to calculate it - for a while I just assumed anyone higher than me on the IT food chain must know this stuff - boy was I wrong.

          I know, right? The only reason I remember is because my CCNA prof made sure we knew how to do subnet calculations on paper from day one.

          I learned it when I was self learning Windows NT stuff. My company at the time was all Windows 3.1 and a bit Windows 95 with Netware on the servers. For some reason I really like NT 4.0 and bought some books and started learning.

          Out of all the Microsoft Server versions I've used over the years, 2000 was my favorite with NT4.0 only falling out of the favorite slot because of the tiny boot partition, even at that time 2GB was kinda small.

          I still prefer NT4 by far. 2000 was actually my least favourite.

          Well, I used Server 2000 for a desktop back in the pre XP days, just to have a stable platform to game on 😕 Linux/UNIX world was always so much more stable.

          Yes, I did the same thing. I moved to Windows 2000 as fast as possible. Win9x was so unstable...

          That wasn't the transition, though. The Windows 9x world was consumer, Windows NT was business. Windows 2000 was the continuation of the already most of a decade old NT family. So had you moved to the NT world "as soon as you could" you would have done so before Windows 95 even released. Windows ME was the continuation of the 9x family, Windows 2000 was NT 5. So you jumped mid-stream.

          Yes I know all that - I don't know why my office never really used NT3.51... we went from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows 2000 at that office.

          Even at home we went from 3.11 WfW to NT 🙂

          To NT 3?

          NT 3.1 was the first version and was roughly contemporary with 3.11. We went from 3.11 to NT 4.

          I never used 3.1 - I helped a user with 3.51, upgraded the executive VP from 3.51 to NT 4.0, but that about all.

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          • art_of_shredA
            art_of_shred Banned @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in BRRABill's Field Report With Linux:

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            @dafyre said

            I have never had any issues not putting them in... But make sure you understand what they are at a bare minimum... Bonus points if you know how to calculate them. 😄

            Bah, that's why we have the interwebs

            That's also why it's bonus points if you know how to calculate it. 😄

            I recall when I learned how to calculate it - for a while I just assumed anyone higher than me on the IT food chain must know this stuff - boy was I wrong.

            I know, right? The only reason I remember is because my CCNA prof made sure we knew how to do subnet calculations on paper from day one.

            I learned it when I was self learning Windows NT stuff. My company at the time was all Windows 3.1 and a bit Windows 95 with Netware on the servers. For some reason I really like NT 4.0 and bought some books and started learning.

            Out of all the Microsoft Server versions I've used over the years, 2000 was my favorite with NT4.0 only falling out of the favorite slot because of the tiny boot partition, even at that time 2GB was kinda small.

            I still prefer NT4 by far. 2000 was actually my least favourite.

            Well, I used Server 2000 for a desktop back in the pre XP days, just to have a stable platform to game on 😕 Linux/UNIX world was always so much more stable.

            Yes, I did the same thing. I moved to Windows 2000 as fast as possible. Win9x was so unstable...

            That wasn't the transition, though. The Windows 9x world was consumer, Windows NT was business. Windows 2000 was the continuation of the already most of a decade old NT family. So had you moved to the NT world "as soon as you could" you would have done so before Windows 95 even released. Windows ME was the continuation of the 9x family, Windows 2000 was NT 5. So you jumped mid-stream.

            Yes I know all that - I don't know why my office never really used NT3.51... we went from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows 2000 at that office.

            I personally tossed NT 4.0 in there.

            I have always had the sense that most businesses did just that. 3.11 > 95 > 2000.

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            • DashrenderD
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              @dafyre said

              I have never had any issues not putting them in... But make sure you understand what they are at a bare minimum... Bonus points if you know how to calculate them. 😄

              Bah, that's why we have the interwebs

              That's also why it's bonus points if you know how to calculate it. 😄

              I recall when I learned how to calculate it - for a while I just assumed anyone higher than me on the IT food chain must know this stuff - boy was I wrong.

              I know, right? The only reason I remember is because my CCNA prof made sure we knew how to do subnet calculations on paper from day one.

              I learned it when I was self learning Windows NT stuff. My company at the time was all Windows 3.1 and a bit Windows 95 with Netware on the servers. For some reason I really like NT 4.0 and bought some books and started learning.

              Out of all the Microsoft Server versions I've used over the years, 2000 was my favorite with NT4.0 only falling out of the favorite slot because of the tiny boot partition, even at that time 2GB was kinda small.

              I still prefer NT4 by far. 2000 was actually my least favourite.

              Well, I used Server 2000 for a desktop back in the pre XP days, just to have a stable platform to game on 😕 Linux/UNIX world was always so much more stable.

              Yes, I did the same thing. I moved to Windows 2000 as fast as possible. Win9x was so unstable...

              That wasn't the transition, though. The Windows 9x world was consumer, Windows NT was business. Windows 2000 was the continuation of the already most of a decade old NT family. So had you moved to the NT world "as soon as you could" you would have done so before Windows 95 even released. Windows ME was the continuation of the 9x family, Windows 2000 was NT 5. So you jumped mid-stream.

              Yes I know all that - I don't know why my office never really used NT3.51... we went from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows 2000 at that office.

              I personally tossed NT 4.0 in there.

              I have always had the sense that most businesses did just that. 3.11 > 95 > 2000.

              agreed - at least on the desktop side.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                @dafyre said

                I have never had any issues not putting them in... But make sure you understand what they are at a bare minimum... Bonus points if you know how to calculate them. 😄

                Bah, that's why we have the interwebs

                That's also why it's bonus points if you know how to calculate it. 😄

                I recall when I learned how to calculate it - for a while I just assumed anyone higher than me on the IT food chain must know this stuff - boy was I wrong.

                I know, right? The only reason I remember is because my CCNA prof made sure we knew how to do subnet calculations on paper from day one.

                I learned it when I was self learning Windows NT stuff. My company at the time was all Windows 3.1 and a bit Windows 95 with Netware on the servers. For some reason I really like NT 4.0 and bought some books and started learning.

                Out of all the Microsoft Server versions I've used over the years, 2000 was my favorite with NT4.0 only falling out of the favorite slot because of the tiny boot partition, even at that time 2GB was kinda small.

                I still prefer NT4 by far. 2000 was actually my least favourite.

                Well, I used Server 2000 for a desktop back in the pre XP days, just to have a stable platform to game on 😕 Linux/UNIX world was always so much more stable.

                Yes, I did the same thing. I moved to Windows 2000 as fast as possible. Win9x was so unstable...

                That wasn't the transition, though. The Windows 9x world was consumer, Windows NT was business. Windows 2000 was the continuation of the already most of a decade old NT family. So had you moved to the NT world "as soon as you could" you would have done so before Windows 95 even released. Windows ME was the continuation of the 9x family, Windows 2000 was NT 5. So you jumped mid-stream.

                Yes I know all that - I don't know why my office never really used NT3.51... we went from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows 2000 at that office.

                I personally tossed NT 4.0 in there.

                I have always had the sense that most businesses did just that. 3.11 > 95 > 2000.

                agreed - at least on the desktop side.

                Every business I dealt with back then went that route.

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                  @dafyre said

                  I have never had any issues not putting them in... But make sure you understand what they are at a bare minimum... Bonus points if you know how to calculate them. 😄

                  Bah, that's why we have the interwebs

                  That's also why it's bonus points if you know how to calculate it. 😄

                  I recall when I learned how to calculate it - for a while I just assumed anyone higher than me on the IT food chain must know this stuff - boy was I wrong.

                  I know, right? The only reason I remember is because my CCNA prof made sure we knew how to do subnet calculations on paper from day one.

                  I learned it when I was self learning Windows NT stuff. My company at the time was all Windows 3.1 and a bit Windows 95 with Netware on the servers. For some reason I really like NT 4.0 and bought some books and started learning.

                  Out of all the Microsoft Server versions I've used over the years, 2000 was my favorite with NT4.0 only falling out of the favorite slot because of the tiny boot partition, even at that time 2GB was kinda small.

                  I still prefer NT4 by far. 2000 was actually my least favourite.

                  Well, I used Server 2000 for a desktop back in the pre XP days, just to have a stable platform to game on 😕 Linux/UNIX world was always so much more stable.

                  Yes, I did the same thing. I moved to Windows 2000 as fast as possible. Win9x was so unstable...

                  That wasn't the transition, though. The Windows 9x world was consumer, Windows NT was business. Windows 2000 was the continuation of the already most of a decade old NT family. So had you moved to the NT world "as soon as you could" you would have done so before Windows 95 even released. Windows ME was the continuation of the 9x family, Windows 2000 was NT 5. So you jumped mid-stream.

                  Yes I know all that - I don't know why my office never really used NT3.51... we went from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows 2000 at that office.

                  I personally tossed NT 4.0 in there.

                  I have always had the sense that most businesses did just that. 3.11 > 95 > 2000.

                  Most went to 98 then ME then to 2000. Those that stopped listening to Microsoft and thought that they knew better and wanted to remain on DOS did not stop at 95 and very rarely at 98 or 98SE. That's why ME was made, to punish them for half a decade of not listening and not having a clue. That DOS was dead and over was pushed so hard but people just didn't listen. But everyone that understood the products or listened to their vendor tell them what was going to happen pretty much had moved over at least by NT4.

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                    @dafyre said

                    I have never had any issues not putting them in... But make sure you understand what they are at a bare minimum... Bonus points if you know how to calculate them. 😄

                    Bah, that's why we have the interwebs

                    That's also why it's bonus points if you know how to calculate it. 😄

                    I recall when I learned how to calculate it - for a while I just assumed anyone higher than me on the IT food chain must know this stuff - boy was I wrong.

                    I know, right? The only reason I remember is because my CCNA prof made sure we knew how to do subnet calculations on paper from day one.

                    I learned it when I was self learning Windows NT stuff. My company at the time was all Windows 3.1 and a bit Windows 95 with Netware on the servers. For some reason I really like NT 4.0 and bought some books and started learning.

                    Out of all the Microsoft Server versions I've used over the years, 2000 was my favorite with NT4.0 only falling out of the favorite slot because of the tiny boot partition, even at that time 2GB was kinda small.

                    I still prefer NT4 by far. 2000 was actually my least favourite.

                    Well, I used Server 2000 for a desktop back in the pre XP days, just to have a stable platform to game on 😕 Linux/UNIX world was always so much more stable.

                    Yes, I did the same thing. I moved to Windows 2000 as fast as possible. Win9x was so unstable...

                    That wasn't the transition, though. The Windows 9x world was consumer, Windows NT was business. Windows 2000 was the continuation of the already most of a decade old NT family. So had you moved to the NT world "as soon as you could" you would have done so before Windows 95 even released. Windows ME was the continuation of the 9x family, Windows 2000 was NT 5. So you jumped mid-stream.

                    Yes I know all that - I don't know why my office never really used NT3.51... we went from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows 2000 at that office.

                    I personally tossed NT 4.0 in there.

                    I have always had the sense that most businesses did just that. 3.11 > 95 > 2000.

                    agreed - at least on the desktop side.

                    Every business I dealt with back then went that route.

                    I saw a lot of 95, but a lot of good businesses on NT 4 workstation, too. Definitely saw some leap from the DOS family to 2000 directly but saw NT 4 on the desktop more than anything else in the late 1990s.

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                      @dafyre said

                      I have never had any issues not putting them in... But make sure you understand what they are at a bare minimum... Bonus points if you know how to calculate them. 😄

                      Bah, that's why we have the interwebs

                      That's also why it's bonus points if you know how to calculate it. 😄

                      I recall when I learned how to calculate it - for a while I just assumed anyone higher than me on the IT food chain must know this stuff - boy was I wrong.

                      I know, right? The only reason I remember is because my CCNA prof made sure we knew how to do subnet calculations on paper from day one.

                      I learned it when I was self learning Windows NT stuff. My company at the time was all Windows 3.1 and a bit Windows 95 with Netware on the servers. For some reason I really like NT 4.0 and bought some books and started learning.

                      Out of all the Microsoft Server versions I've used over the years, 2000 was my favorite with NT4.0 only falling out of the favorite slot because of the tiny boot partition, even at that time 2GB was kinda small.

                      I still prefer NT4 by far. 2000 was actually my least favourite.

                      Well, I used Server 2000 for a desktop back in the pre XP days, just to have a stable platform to game on 😕 Linux/UNIX world was always so much more stable.

                      Yes, I did the same thing. I moved to Windows 2000 as fast as possible. Win9x was so unstable...

                      That wasn't the transition, though. The Windows 9x world was consumer, Windows NT was business. Windows 2000 was the continuation of the already most of a decade old NT family. So had you moved to the NT world "as soon as you could" you would have done so before Windows 95 even released. Windows ME was the continuation of the 9x family, Windows 2000 was NT 5. So you jumped mid-stream.

                      Yes I know all that - I don't know why my office never really used NT3.51... we went from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows 2000 at that office.

                      I personally tossed NT 4.0 in there.

                      I have always had the sense that most businesses did just that. 3.11 > 95 > 2000.

                      agreed - at least on the desktop side.

                      Every business I dealt with back then went that route.

                      I saw a lot of 95, but a lot of good businesses on NT 4 workstation, too. Definitely saw some leap from the DOS family to 2000 directly but saw NT 4 on the desktop more than anything else in the late 1990s.

                      I think I've seen 1 or 2 NT4 workstations... ever.

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                        @dafyre said

                        I have never had any issues not putting them in... But make sure you understand what they are at a bare minimum... Bonus points if you know how to calculate them. 😄

                        Bah, that's why we have the interwebs

                        That's also why it's bonus points if you know how to calculate it. 😄

                        I recall when I learned how to calculate it - for a while I just assumed anyone higher than me on the IT food chain must know this stuff - boy was I wrong.

                        I know, right? The only reason I remember is because my CCNA prof made sure we knew how to do subnet calculations on paper from day one.

                        I learned it when I was self learning Windows NT stuff. My company at the time was all Windows 3.1 and a bit Windows 95 with Netware on the servers. For some reason I really like NT 4.0 and bought some books and started learning.

                        Out of all the Microsoft Server versions I've used over the years, 2000 was my favorite with NT4.0 only falling out of the favorite slot because of the tiny boot partition, even at that time 2GB was kinda small.

                        I still prefer NT4 by far. 2000 was actually my least favourite.

                        Well, I used Server 2000 for a desktop back in the pre XP days, just to have a stable platform to game on 😕 Linux/UNIX world was always so much more stable.

                        Yes, I did the same thing. I moved to Windows 2000 as fast as possible. Win9x was so unstable...

                        That wasn't the transition, though. The Windows 9x world was consumer, Windows NT was business. Windows 2000 was the continuation of the already most of a decade old NT family. So had you moved to the NT world "as soon as you could" you would have done so before Windows 95 even released. Windows ME was the continuation of the 9x family, Windows 2000 was NT 5. So you jumped mid-stream.

                        Yes I know all that - I don't know why my office never really used NT3.51... we went from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows 2000 at that office.

                        I personally tossed NT 4.0 in there.

                        I have always had the sense that most businesses did just that. 3.11 > 95 > 2000.

                        agreed - at least on the desktop side.

                        Every business I dealt with back then went that route.

                        I saw a lot of 95, but a lot of good businesses on NT 4 workstation, too. Definitely saw some leap from the DOS family to 2000 directly but saw NT 4 on the desktop more than anything else in the late 1990s.

                        I think I've seen 1 or 2 NT4 workstations... ever.

                        Luk, Inc setup a few of their Digital Workstations (late 90s) to duel boot OpenVMS and NT4... the NT4 side never worked so well.

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                          @dafyre said

                          I have never had any issues not putting them in... But make sure you understand what they are at a bare minimum... Bonus points if you know how to calculate them. 😄

                          Bah, that's why we have the interwebs

                          That's also why it's bonus points if you know how to calculate it. 😄

                          I recall when I learned how to calculate it - for a while I just assumed anyone higher than me on the IT food chain must know this stuff - boy was I wrong.

                          I know, right? The only reason I remember is because my CCNA prof made sure we knew how to do subnet calculations on paper from day one.

                          I learned it when I was self learning Windows NT stuff. My company at the time was all Windows 3.1 and a bit Windows 95 with Netware on the servers. For some reason I really like NT 4.0 and bought some books and started learning.

                          Out of all the Microsoft Server versions I've used over the years, 2000 was my favorite with NT4.0 only falling out of the favorite slot because of the tiny boot partition, even at that time 2GB was kinda small.

                          I still prefer NT4 by far. 2000 was actually my least favourite.

                          Well, I used Server 2000 for a desktop back in the pre XP days, just to have a stable platform to game on 😕 Linux/UNIX world was always so much more stable.

                          Yes, I did the same thing. I moved to Windows 2000 as fast as possible. Win9x was so unstable...

                          That wasn't the transition, though. The Windows 9x world was consumer, Windows NT was business. Windows 2000 was the continuation of the already most of a decade old NT family. So had you moved to the NT world "as soon as you could" you would have done so before Windows 95 even released. Windows ME was the continuation of the 9x family, Windows 2000 was NT 5. So you jumped mid-stream.

                          Yes I know all that - I don't know why my office never really used NT3.51... we went from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows 2000 at that office.

                          I personally tossed NT 4.0 in there.

                          I have always had the sense that most businesses did just that. 3.11 > 95 > 2000.

                          agreed - at least on the desktop side.

                          Every business I dealt with back then went that route.

                          I saw a lot of 95, but a lot of good businesses on NT 4 workstation, too. Definitely saw some leap from the DOS family to 2000 directly but saw NT 4 on the desktop more than anything else in the late 1990s.

                          I think I've seen 1 or 2 NT4 workstations... ever.

                          I think you've seen more than that just visiting my apartment in the 1990s. We easily had half a dozen there alone.

                          NTG was 100% NT4 from 1999 - 2003 except for a small number of 2000 machines that were put on client sites after 2000.

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                            @dafyre said

                            I have never had any issues not putting them in... But make sure you understand what they are at a bare minimum... Bonus points if you know how to calculate them. 😄

                            Bah, that's why we have the interwebs

                            That's also why it's bonus points if you know how to calculate it. 😄

                            I recall when I learned how to calculate it - for a while I just assumed anyone higher than me on the IT food chain must know this stuff - boy was I wrong.

                            I know, right? The only reason I remember is because my CCNA prof made sure we knew how to do subnet calculations on paper from day one.

                            I learned it when I was self learning Windows NT stuff. My company at the time was all Windows 3.1 and a bit Windows 95 with Netware on the servers. For some reason I really like NT 4.0 and bought some books and started learning.

                            Out of all the Microsoft Server versions I've used over the years, 2000 was my favorite with NT4.0 only falling out of the favorite slot because of the tiny boot partition, even at that time 2GB was kinda small.

                            I still prefer NT4 by far. 2000 was actually my least favourite.

                            Well, I used Server 2000 for a desktop back in the pre XP days, just to have a stable platform to game on 😕 Linux/UNIX world was always so much more stable.

                            Yes, I did the same thing. I moved to Windows 2000 as fast as possible. Win9x was so unstable...

                            That wasn't the transition, though. The Windows 9x world was consumer, Windows NT was business. Windows 2000 was the continuation of the already most of a decade old NT family. So had you moved to the NT world "as soon as you could" you would have done so before Windows 95 even released. Windows ME was the continuation of the 9x family, Windows 2000 was NT 5. So you jumped mid-stream.

                            Yes I know all that - I don't know why my office never really used NT3.51... we went from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows 2000 at that office.

                            I personally tossed NT 4.0 in there.

                            I have always had the sense that most businesses did just that. 3.11 > 95 > 2000.

                            agreed - at least on the desktop side.

                            Every business I dealt with back then went that route.

                            I saw a lot of 95, but a lot of good businesses on NT 4 workstation, too. Definitely saw some leap from the DOS family to 2000 directly but saw NT 4 on the desktop more than anything else in the late 1990s.

                            I think I've seen 1 or 2 NT4 workstations... ever.

                            I think you've seen more than that just visiting my apartment in the 1990s. We easily had half a dozen there alone.

                            NTG was 100% NT4 from 1999 - 2003 except for a small number of 2000 machines that were put on client sites after 2000.

                            Yeah, I never visited your apartment. 😛

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                              @dafyre said

                              I have never had any issues not putting them in... But make sure you understand what they are at a bare minimum... Bonus points if you know how to calculate them. 😄

                              Bah, that's why we have the interwebs

                              That's also why it's bonus points if you know how to calculate it. 😄

                              I recall when I learned how to calculate it - for a while I just assumed anyone higher than me on the IT food chain must know this stuff - boy was I wrong.

                              I know, right? The only reason I remember is because my CCNA prof made sure we knew how to do subnet calculations on paper from day one.

                              I learned it when I was self learning Windows NT stuff. My company at the time was all Windows 3.1 and a bit Windows 95 with Netware on the servers. For some reason I really like NT 4.0 and bought some books and started learning.

                              Out of all the Microsoft Server versions I've used over the years, 2000 was my favorite with NT4.0 only falling out of the favorite slot because of the tiny boot partition, even at that time 2GB was kinda small.

                              I still prefer NT4 by far. 2000 was actually my least favourite.

                              Well, I used Server 2000 for a desktop back in the pre XP days, just to have a stable platform to game on 😕 Linux/UNIX world was always so much more stable.

                              Yes, I did the same thing. I moved to Windows 2000 as fast as possible. Win9x was so unstable...

                              That wasn't the transition, though. The Windows 9x world was consumer, Windows NT was business. Windows 2000 was the continuation of the already most of a decade old NT family. So had you moved to the NT world "as soon as you could" you would have done so before Windows 95 even released. Windows ME was the continuation of the 9x family, Windows 2000 was NT 5. So you jumped mid-stream.

                              Yes I know all that - I don't know why my office never really used NT3.51... we went from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 to Windows 2000 at that office.

                              I personally tossed NT 4.0 in there.

                              I have always had the sense that most businesses did just that. 3.11 > 95 > 2000.

                              agreed - at least on the desktop side.

                              Every business I dealt with back then went that route.

                              I saw a lot of 95, but a lot of good businesses on NT 4 workstation, too. Definitely saw some leap from the DOS family to 2000 directly but saw NT 4 on the desktop more than anything else in the late 1990s.

                              I think I've seen 1 or 2 NT4 workstations... ever.

                              I think you've seen more than that just visiting my apartment in the 1990s. We easily had half a dozen there alone.

                              NTG was 100% NT4 from 1999 - 2003 except for a small number of 2000 machines that were put on client sites after 2000.

                              That sounds like my place.

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                              • BRRABillB
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                                How long does

                                sudo -s
                                

                                last for?

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                                  How long does

                                  sudo -s
                                  

                                  last for?

                                  Forever, it runs whatever is the default shell. So if you're using bash it's exactly like

                                  sudo bash
                                  
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                                    @travisdh1 said in BRRABill's Field Report With Linux:

                                    @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With Linux:

                                    How long does

                                    sudo -s
                                    

                                    last for?

                                    Forever, it runs whatever is the default shell. So if you're using bash it's exactly like

                                    sudo bash
                                    

                                    But I mean, if you log off, does it retain? AKA, do you have to do something to turn it off?

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                                      @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With Linux:

                                      @travisdh1 said in BRRABill's Field Report With Linux:

                                      @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With Linux:

                                      How long does

                                      sudo -s
                                      

                                      last for?

                                      Forever, it runs whatever is the default shell. So if you're using bash it's exactly like

                                      sudo bash
                                      

                                      But I mean, if you log off, does it retain? AKA, do you have to do something to turn it off?

                                      once you type exit it's gone and you're back to your user creds.

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                                        @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With Linux:

                                        @travisdh1 said in BRRABill's Field Report With Linux:

                                        @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With Linux:

                                        How long does

                                        sudo -s
                                        

                                        last for?

                                        Forever, it runs whatever is the default shell. So if you're using bash it's exactly like

                                        sudo bash
                                        

                                        But I mean, if you log off, does it retain? AKA, do you have to do something to turn it off?

                                        You have to exit from that shell. Normally, that's how we'd logoff of an ssh session. On a desktop, logging out should close all user land apps, which include shell sessions.

                                        To keep a shell session running you'd want to use screen and detach the session. Other programs can do the same thing, but I'm forgetting what the newer ones are.

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                                          @travisdh1 said in BRRABill's Field Report With Linux:

                                          @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With Linux:

                                          @travisdh1 said in BRRABill's Field Report With Linux:

                                          @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With Linux:

                                          How long does

                                          sudo -s
                                          

                                          last for?

                                          Forever, it runs whatever is the default shell. So if you're using bash it's exactly like

                                          sudo bash
                                          

                                          But I mean, if you log off, does it retain? AKA, do you have to do something to turn it off?

                                          You have to exit from that shell. Normally, that's how we'd logoff of an ssh session. On a desktop, logging out should close all user land apps, which include shell sessions.

                                          To keep a shell session running you'd want to use screen and detach the session. Other programs can do the same thing, but I'm forgetting what the newer ones are.

                                          Got it, OK.

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                                            Just posting this
                                            I recently rebuilt and redesigned the local lan here. Had to because of gear failure.
                                            My old issue in XS of not being able to export vms quickly is gone. It had remained even after Citrix said they fixed the issue, so i now think it was something old sysadmin had done to cripple communications between networks(intentional or not i dunno).
                                            Now when i export vms i am exporting at around 500Mbps through Xencenter, using 7.1 and 6.5. Unheard of in the past on this network.

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