What Are You Doing Right Now
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Personally, considering your situation - I'd see about moving to part time custody - move in with your mom - sell your house.. and really work toward some job you really want, you have no wife - but you do have a girlfriend (last I knew)... so that will take your time away...
Of course almost no one would be willing to do any of that..That's a lot and takes on risk. Might be smart, but it's not conservative in the ordinary sense (might be overall, I'd agree.)
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs A number of people here have side consulting jobs I know @EddieJennings set up an LLC and does some work and got great advice from the forum. I've been reviewing it myself as I see mycompany dwindling down and Im looking for some new opportunities in 2022.
Hell, I still have a few clients from my days of business ownership (technically I am still a business owner
). and I've even picked up an extra one or three over the years without trying.
The extra 5-30K/yr is niceHow does your current company deal with the "moonlighting" situation?
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@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs A number of people here have side consulting jobs I know @EddieJennings set up an LLC and does some work and got great advice from the forum. I've been reviewing it myself as I see mycompany dwindling down and Im looking for some new opportunities in 2022.
Hell, I still have a few clients from my days of business ownership (technically I am still a business owner
). and I've even picked up an extra one or three over the years without trying.
The extra 5-30K/yr is niceHow does your current company deal with the "moonlighting" situation?
Just wondering to what extent they care.Rarely does anyone care unless there is competition. He doesn't work for an IT firm.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs A number of people here have side consulting jobs I know @EddieJennings set up an LLC and does some work and got great advice from the forum. I've been reviewing it myself as I see mycompany dwindling down and Im looking for some new opportunities in 2022.
Hell, I still have a few clients from my days of business ownership (technically I am still a business owner
). and I've even picked up an extra one or three over the years without trying.
The extra 5-30K/yr is niceHow does your current company deal with the "moonlighting" situation?
Just wondering to what extent they care.Rarely does anyone care unless there is competition. He doesn't work for an IT firm.
I see. I'm in medical also, but we have a side where we will help our clients with their IT. External IT (aka bench tech) work is rare now but it still kind of exists.
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Packing my bags, heading to San Juan del Sur with @CCWTech for the weekend.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Personally, considering your situation - I'd see about moving to part time custody - move in with your mom - sell your house.. and really work toward some job you really want, you have no wife - but you do have a girlfriend (last I knew)... so that will take your time away...
Of course almost no one would be willing to do any of that..That's a lot and takes on risk. Might be smart, but it's not conservative in the ordinary sense (might be overall, I'd agree.)
Of course it's not conservative, or ordinary at all - but it would remove almost all liabilities from him and allow him the potential for less stress while studying to get a better job - and working a different one.
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@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs A number of people here have side consulting jobs I know @EddieJennings set up an LLC and does some work and got great advice from the forum. I've been reviewing it myself as I see mycompany dwindling down and Im looking for some new opportunities in 2022.
Hell, I still have a few clients from my days of business ownership (technically I am still a business owner
). and I've even picked up an extra one or three over the years without trying.
The extra 5-30K/yr is niceHow does your current company deal with the "moonlighting" situation?
Just wondering to what extent they care.Well, my previous boss - retired in May 2021 - was totally fine with it other than my employment with her came first over anyone else. But I was still allowed to work on those other customers if the need arose during the day. I'm salary at my day job, so I work when I need to work to get things done, while it's really not as flexible as that sounds - i.e. I'm expected to be here 99% of the time from 7-5, if I'm occasionally not - it's generally not a big deal.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs A number of people here have side consulting jobs I know @EddieJennings set up an LLC and does some work and got great advice from the forum. I've been reviewing it myself as I see mycompany dwindling down and Im looking for some new opportunities in 2022.
Hell, I still have a few clients from my days of business ownership (technically I am still a business owner
). and I've even picked up an extra one or three over the years without trying.
The extra 5-30K/yr is niceHow does your current company deal with the "moonlighting" situation?
Just wondering to what extent they care.Rarely does anyone care unless there is competition. He doesn't work for an IT firm.
Exactly. The only time they would care is if there is an outage at a client and my day job at the same time - day job comes first 100% of the time.
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@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs A number of people here have side consulting jobs I know @EddieJennings set up an LLC and does some work and got great advice from the forum. I've been reviewing it myself as I see mycompany dwindling down and Im looking for some new opportunities in 2022.
Hell, I still have a few clients from my days of business ownership (technically I am still a business owner
). and I've even picked up an extra one or three over the years without trying.
The extra 5-30K/yr is niceHow does your current company deal with the "moonlighting" situation?
Just wondering to what extent they care.Rarely does anyone care unless there is competition. He doesn't work for an IT firm.
I see. I'm in medical also, but we have a side where we will help our clients with their IT. External IT (aka bench tech) work is rare now but it still kind of exists.
uh - what? you're in medical and the business you work for has a side department that helps patients? with home computer issues? that just seems beyond weird!
we definitely don't have anything like that.
The closest I get is - I have to work with patients sometimes to get access to our EMR patient portal. But there is a point where we draw the line and say - I'm sorry we can't help you any further, and you need to seek professional computer assistance to solve your computer issues that are preventing you from accessing our website.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I don't understand the "taking on debt" really comes into play?
I suppose from a growing the business POV - you didn't hire others, so you didn't need guaranteed money - perhaps that's the debt you're talking about?
Though you did specifically mention a place you suffered in - and likely suffered greatly - personal time and sleep. You choose (not wrongly) to sacrifice personal time and sleep for education and servicing of clients, primarily during the day - because you had a night time, presumably full time job.
lack of kids definitely made that easier for you - not sure of your wife situation at that time either.
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@nadnerb said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
sitting the rear bedroom doing stuff & getting hot. 30 degrees C today, no AC in this room with the afternoon sun blasting onto the wall.
Back to spring-ish weather here. Weather is having issues committing to being summer.
It's spring again here too... it was winter last week, now some spring, then maybe a hard freeze...
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs A number of people here have side consulting jobs I know @EddieJennings set up an LLC and does some work and got great advice from the forum. I've been reviewing it myself as I see mycompany dwindling down and Im looking for some new opportunities in 2022.
Hell, I still have a few clients from my days of business ownership (technically I am still a business owner
). and I've even picked up an extra one or three over the years without trying.
The extra 5-30K/yr is niceHow does your current company deal with the "moonlighting" situation?
Just wondering to what extent they care.Rarely does anyone care unless there is competition. He doesn't work for an IT firm.
I see. I'm in medical also, but we have a side where we will help our clients with their IT. External IT (aka bench tech) work is rare now but it still kind of exists.
uh - what? you're in medical and the business you work for has a side department that helps patients? with home computer issues? that just seems beyond weird!
we definitely don't have anything like that.
The closest I get is - I have to work with patients sometimes to get access to our EMR patient portal. But there is a point where we draw the line and say - I'm sorry we can't help you any further, and you need to seek professional computer assistance to solve your computer issues that are preventing you from accessing our website.
Not patients, but small Dr.'s offices who choose not to hire IT companies and have their children do it because they setup their home wifi (big UGH's half the time).
While pc/server/internet setup service is very rare now, we have basically stopped charging for some of the work I do for them. The bummer is, I could charge them $75 per hour with 3 hour setup for small offices and then run services on top of that for a good side hustle.
Edit: Like you telling patients, we do mention that to our clients if they want total complete setup, maintenance and support for free. That is when I mention the $150 an hour plus mileage. That conversation shuts down real fast.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs A number of people here have side consulting jobs I know @EddieJennings set up an LLC and does some work and got great advice from the forum. I've been reviewing it myself as I see mycompany dwindling down and Im looking for some new opportunities in 2022.
Hell, I still have a few clients from my days of business ownership (technically I am still a business owner
). and I've even picked up an extra one or three over the years without trying.
The extra 5-30K/yr is niceHow does your current company deal with the "moonlighting" situation?
Just wondering to what extent they care.Well, my previous boss - retired in May 2021 - was totally fine with it other than my employment with her came first over anyone else. But I was still allowed to work on those other customers if the need arose during the day. I'm salary at my day job, so I work when I need to work to get things done, while it's really not as flexible as that sounds - i.e. I'm expected to be here 99% of the time from 7-5, if I'm occasionally not - it's generally not a big deal.
Wasn't that the same boss who took away your scheduled vacation? (I am remembering that correctly?)
I'm hourly here and puts a cramp in the hours I can get real IT (IT, Bench, Support, etc..) work done because of OT.
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Kicking off another Lithophane print on the 3D printer, ticket layout for the next club raffle, and now since I have the munches - fixing popcorn.
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i'm imaging 50 netbooks. one of the things I hate most in IT is unboxing. It's such an unproductive, wasteful use of my time.
But I get paid the same if I unbox or perform brain surgery.
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@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Wasn't that the same boss who took away your scheduled vacation? (I am remembering that correctly?)
There was one point where that almost happened, but ultimately it wasn't. I did get my vacation in that case.
I'm hourly here and puts a cramp in the hours I can get real IT (IT, Bench, Support, etc..) work done because of OT.
what?
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@siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
i'm imaging 50 netbooks. one of the things I hate most in IT is unboxing. It's such an unproductive, wasteful use of my time.
But I get paid the same if I unbox or perform brain surgery.
Pretty sure Scott would call this Benchwork, not IT work.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
i'm imaging 50 netbooks. one of the things I hate most in IT is unboxing. It's such an unproductive, wasteful use of my time.
But I get paid the same if I unbox or perform brain surgery.
Pretty sure Scott would call this Benchwork, not IT work.
Could be right.
I call it successfully performing the tasks required to secure and maintain employment.
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@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jt1001001 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs A number of people here have side consulting jobs I know @EddieJennings set up an LLC and does some work and got great advice from the forum. I've been reviewing it myself as I see mycompany dwindling down and Im looking for some new opportunities in 2022.
Hell, I still have a few clients from my days of business ownership (technically I am still a business owner
). and I've even picked up an extra one or three over the years without trying.
The extra 5-30K/yr is niceHow does your current company deal with the "moonlighting" situation?
Just wondering to what extent they care.Rarely does anyone care unless there is competition. He doesn't work for an IT firm.
I see. I'm in medical also, but we have a side where we will help our clients with their IT. External IT (aka bench tech) work is rare now but it still kind of exists.
uh - what? you're in medical and the business you work for has a side department that helps patients? with home computer issues? that just seems beyond weird!
we definitely don't have anything like that.
The closest I get is - I have to work with patients sometimes to get access to our EMR patient portal. But there is a point where we draw the line and say - I'm sorry we can't help you any further, and you need to seek professional computer assistance to solve your computer issues that are preventing you from accessing our website.
Not patients, but small Dr.'s offices who choose not to hire IT companies and have their children do it because they setup their home wifi (big UGH's half the time).
While pc/server/internet setup service is very rare now, we have basically stopped charging for some of the work I do for them. The bummer is, I could charge them $75 per hour with 3 hour setup for small offices and then run services on top of that for a good side hustle.
Edit: Like you telling patients, we do mention that to our clients if they want total complete setup, maintenance and support for free. That is when I mention the $150 an hour plus mileage. That conversation shuts down real fast.
It seems crazy that your employer would volunteer to do free work for their clients.
