What Are You Doing Right Now
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@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Looking up about ZeroTier, but confused how you would implement it in a 600+ Device / 30+ server over 60 location environment. Would you need to install the client on ALL the servers and devices?
It might be easier to set it up as a site-to-site VPN. The ethernet bridging can work, but hat can also make for some interesting issues.
The way ZT is designed, yes, you'd install the client on all the things. If you manage the network soup to nuts, then setting it up as a site to site VPN isn't terribly difficult at small scale.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just booked flights to Nicaragua!!
Daughters want to go on vacation to get out of the cold, I assume you'll be on the next flight back?
Paul and I are going down because you have to be in country, in person, to form a new company. We are going down to deal with the lawyers.
He was referencing your Senator.
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
It might be easier to set it up as a site-to-site VPN. The ethernet bridging can work, but hat can also make for some interesting issues.
The way ZT is designed, yes, you'd install the client on all the things. If you manage the network soup to nuts, then setting it up as a site to site VPN isn't terribly difficult at small scale.
This is what i'm thinking.
Guess if it was just one/two servers plus handful of users ZeroTeir would be OK to use. -
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just booked flights to Nicaragua!!
Daughters want to go on vacation to get out of the cold, I assume you'll be on the next flight back?
Paul and I are going down because you have to be in country, in person, to form a new company. We are going down to deal with the lawyers.
He was referencing your Senator.
Oh!!! Yeah.
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@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
It might be easier to set it up as a site-to-site VPN. The ethernet bridging can work, but hat can also make for some interesting issues.
The way ZT is designed, yes, you'd install the client on all the things. If you manage the network soup to nuts, then setting it up as a site to site VPN isn't terribly difficult at small scale.
This is what i'm thinking.
Guess if it was just one/two servers plus handful of users ZeroTeir would be OK to use.Does the number of users really make a difference?
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Does the number of users really make a difference?
Not really but I wouldn't want to install/update/maintain 600+ user devices.
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@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Does the number of users really make a difference?
Not really but I wouldn't want to install/update/maintain 600+ user devices.
It's just a matter of a script or state file that defines it and 600 is as easy as 1. But then you get a lot of robust options like device mobility.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Does the number of users really make a difference?
Not really but I wouldn't want to install/update/maintain 600+ user devices.
It's just a matter of a script or state file that defines it and 600 is as easy as 1. But then you get a lot of robust options like device mobility.
State management does completely change what you are able to manage. 600, 6,000 makes very little difference, still a single config to update.
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@notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@hobbit666 You could do that, or it can also be setup as a network bridge. Unsure of site to site, but I did a quick PoC with a Linux VM at HO that was allowing a remote laptop to connect in as if it was onsite. The remote machine was even pulling a dhcp address from the HO dhcp server since the bridging was all at L2. You could probably do a VM at each site more or less as a "VPN endpoint" and the IP ranges properly configured and routed.
yeah you could - but damn.. that's a lot more complicated than just setting up P2P VPN between firewalls.
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@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
It might be easier to set it up as a site-to-site VPN. The ethernet bridging can work, but hat can also make for some interesting issues.
The way ZT is designed, yes, you'd install the client on all the things. If you manage the network soup to nuts, then setting it up as a site to site VPN isn't terribly difficult at small scale.
This is what i'm thinking.
Guess if it was just one/two servers plus handful of users ZeroTeir would be OK to use.I think I'd only consider ZT if there was nothing local to worry about. If the primary connection fabric is ZT, then rolling it out everywhere would be fine.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@hobbit666 You could do that, or it can also be setup as a network bridge. Unsure of site to site, but I did a quick PoC with a Linux VM at HO that was allowing a remote laptop to connect in as if it was onsite. The remote machine was even pulling a dhcp address from the HO dhcp server since the bridging was all at L2. You could probably do a VM at each site more or less as a "VPN endpoint" and the IP ranges properly configured and routed.
yeah you could - but damn.. that's a lot more complicated than just setting up P2P VPN between firewalls.
Sure, but it's not just that easy necessarily. Site to Site is each site to each site and any mobile users become another site. So it's a lot of points, potentially.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
It might be easier to set it up as a site-to-site VPN. The ethernet bridging can work, but hat can also make for some interesting issues.
The way ZT is designed, yes, you'd install the client on all the things. If you manage the network soup to nuts, then setting it up as a site to site VPN isn't terribly difficult at small scale.
This is what i'm thinking.
Guess if it was just one/two servers plus handful of users ZeroTeir would be OK to use.I think I'd only consider ZT if there was nothing local to worry about. If the primary connection fabric is ZT, then rolling it out everywhere would be fine.
But dealing with internal DNS, etc.. so much hassle.Just got to zero local.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
It might be easier to set it up as a site-to-site VPN. The ethernet bridging can work, but hat can also make for some interesting issues.
The way ZT is designed, yes, you'd install the client on all the things. If you manage the network soup to nuts, then setting it up as a site to site VPN isn't terribly difficult at small scale.
This is what i'm thinking.
Guess if it was just one/two servers plus handful of users ZeroTeir would be OK to use.I think I'd only consider ZT if there was nothing local to worry about. If the primary connection fabric is ZT, then rolling it out everywhere would be fine.
But dealing with internal DNS, etc.. so much hassle.Just got to zero local.
I was just talking to JB last night about what that would look like... I'm trying to create a full on real plan for no AD, Windows machines still with some type of machine management (I need to learn SALT or ....)
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I'm frustrated with my insurance company - so everyone knows to stay away from them, this is my story:
got a call the other day that they haven't been pulling ACH and want me to pay back what they didn't take - Cause I have their insurance but they didn't pull the money or send me a bill or anything.
I call them back yesterday to see how much it should be and its double what my Insurance rate /month x3 (for the 3 months I haven't paid cause they didn't pull that)
should be. So I get confused, and start asking questions, and they basically want me to pay for their mess up. If we did that in my company, we would have to eat those months we didn't bill them for. and end up being out that money because of our mistake.
It's my responsibility to pay the insurance - but it is their responsibility to pull that money out of my account through the ACH that I set up in the beginning - which is exactly why I set up the ACH. was So I didn't have to worry about sending checks in the mail, and it gave me a discount.
they've updated my rate to a lower rate, and then told me that I still owe double my original amount..Stay away from Farm Bureau Insurance.. I'm looking for new auto and Home insurance.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Stay away from Farm Bureau Insurance.
I've never even heard of them.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I'm frustrated with my insurance company - so everyone knows to stay away from them, this is my story:
got a call the other day that they haven't been pulling ACH and want me to pay back what they didn't take - Cause I have their insurance but they didn't pull the money or send me a bill or anything.
I call them back yesterday to see how much it should be and its double what my Insurance rate /month x3 (for the 3 months I haven't paid cause they didn't pull that)
should be. So I get confused, and start asking questions, and they basically want me to pay for their mess up. If we did that in my company, we would have to eat those months we didn't bill them for. and end up being out that money because of our mistake.
It's my responsibility to pay the insurance - but it is their responsibility to pull that money out of my account through the ACH that I set up in the beginning - which is exactly why I set up the ACH. was So I didn't have to worry about sending checks in the mail, and it gave me a discount.
they've updated my rate to a lower rate, and then told me that I still owe double my original amount..Stay away from Farm Bureau Insurance.. I'm looking for new auto and Home insurance.
I just want to stay away from the FBI in general.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Stay away from Farm Bureau Insurance.
I've never even heard of them.
Not a small insurance company, but they do not have a single national presence.
They have everything broken out at a state level.
Farm Bureau Mutual is the parent company
Here is Texas: https://www.txfb-ins.com/ -
We have Farm Bureau in GA as well, but I've never heard of anyone who uses them.
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@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
We have Farm Bureau in GA as well, but I've never heard of anyone who uses them.
it was a huge mistake to start using them.
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SOC audit review. Never done this before and its a complete waste of time