What Are You Doing Right Now
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Please pause while I go in to shock that a legacy company actually spec'd their product legally compliant with Microsoft T&C.
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@JaredBusch Ah, Sage. . .
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@EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch Ah, Sage. . .
But the didn't say I could install it on Windows 10!!! OMFG!
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Please pause while I go in to shock that a legacy company actually spec'd their product legally compliant with Microsoft T&C.
Holy Crackballs!!!
I'm dealing with this exact type of issue this morning.
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I just looked up the EULA again on this:
(iii) Device connections. You may allow up to 20 other devices to access the software installed on the licensed device for the purpose of using the following software features: file services, print services, Internet information services, and Internet connection sharing and telephony services on the licensed device. You may allow any number of devices to access the software on the licensed device to synchronize data between devices. This section does not mean, however, that you have the right to install the software, or use the primary function of the software (other than the features listed in this section), on any of these other devices.
Which brings me to a question for the particular setup I'm working on.
Device is a piece of lab equipment, than connects to software running on a windows box, which then sends that data to a third party.
Do you think someone could successfully argue that the data coming form the lab equipment is just "syncing" with the server? It is a one-way sync of data.I do not think this is the intent of that portion of the EULA, but sadly I could see some trying to skate by on that.
Don't FFS me Jared - I'm just prepping myself for some lame excuse they might try to pull.
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch Ah, Sage. . .
But the didn't say I could install it on Windows 10!!! OMFG!
Kudos to them.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Device is a piece of lab equipment, than connects to software running on a windows box, which then sends that data to a third party.
This is mostly pretty easy to track down... HOW does it send? Is it using SMB, NFS, HTTP?
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Do you think someone could successfully argue that the data coming form the lab equipment is just "syncing" with the server? It is a one-way sync of data.
You could, maybe, if the Windows box is not doing anything else. But you said yourself that it is, it's sending the data on somewhere else. There's no need for the Windows box if that was all that it was doing (being a network pipe). It's doing something else here or they'd have had their device send directly on to wherever the data is going.
It's not impossible to say that it's just syncing to and then syncing again from. It's just incredibly unlikely to be what is happening.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I do not think this is the intent of that portion of the EULA, but sadly I could see some trying to skate by on that.
I honestly would guess that it is. I mean, the REAL reason is for backups. But realistically, if it is used purely as a passing stop on a data transfer, I think that they are fine with that. A pipe, so to speak, doing no work of its own except file in, file out. But if it is doing anything with that file in the middle, then it's a different animal.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I do not think this is the intent of that portion of the EULA, but sadly I could see some trying to skate by on that.
I honestly would guess that it is. I mean, the REAL reason is for backups. But realistically, if it is used purely as a passing stop on a data transfer, I think that they are fine with that. A pipe, so to speak, doing no work of its own except file in, file out. But if it is doing anything with that file in the middle, then it's a different animal.
This is exactly why I posted this here.
I'm not sure why the lab equipment can't talk directly to the Laboratory Information Management System (LIS) instead of going through an onsite middle man.
I could guess that the lab equipment network setup is so bad they can't make secure connections, as at least one option.
Also - the lab equipment is not provided by the data collection company, they are completely different companies (Siemens - lab equipment, RelayMed - LIS). -
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I could guess that the lab equipment network setup is so bad they can't make secure connections, as at least one option.
I'd say "less than a 50% chance", but definitely possible that they are just using the Windows machine to make the network connection the "customer's problem."
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I could guess that the lab equipment network setup is so bad they can't make secure connections, as at least one option.
I'd say "less than a 50% chance", but definitely possible that they are just using the Windows machine to make the network connection the "customer's problem."
I don't follow, what do you mean customer's problem? as in, the lab equipment won't talk to the local sync client - so that's the customer's problem?
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
But if it is doing anything with that file in the middle, then it's a different animal.
Is it? Sync from the external device is happening, then whatever happens to that data on the server side, as long as those changes don't go back to the device in question should be fine.
The connection out to another server shouldn't really matter, as that type of traffic is completely allowed on Windows desktop versions.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Also - the lab equipment is not provided by the data collection company, they are completely different companies (Siemens - lab equipment, RelayMed - LIS).
This makes it a little more likely that the machines is basically used as a conduit.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Is it? Sync from the external device is happening, then whatever happens to that data on the server side, as long as those changes don't go back to the device in question should be fine.
If they go out anywhere from there, it's not fine.
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Building an updated XOCE tiny template to host on GH so people can perform direct install's from SSH on their XCP-ng servers.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Building an updated XOCE tiny template to host on GH so people can perform direct install's from SSH on their XCP-ng servers.
Just now saw that Ubuntu isn't building a mini.iso any more. I may have to rebuild this with Debian instead to keep the size of the final XVA as small as possible.
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hello, on a cold tuesday morning.
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Editing video
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Relaxing with some Christmas tunes and the munchkins while the SO is getting groceries and the roofers are hopefully on their last day. New roof isn't exactly the Christmas present I was hoping for :exploding_head:
