What Are You Doing Right Now
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@scotth nothing wrong with the specs of that system, perfect for learning with to be honest.
Don't overthink VDI, it's really just a collection of VM's with management tools for automatically creating machines from base images, load balancing, gateway management etc.Microsoft have their solution built into windows server called Remote Desktop Services, Citrix have their solution which adds more functionality on top of this and use a different connection protocol called ICA which uses less resources than RDP. VMware have their solution called VMware Horizon View.
I don't use VDI per say, I use session based desktops (shared Desktop) and would recommend using this for most scenarios, VDI is expensive, needs fast storage and needs to be setup and planned correctly. I've seen a company use a VDI solution that was crap to use due to the SAN being flakey and the environment not being setup correctly. VDI is excellent if used in the correct manner and for the correct purpose though.
There are trials you can use, download windows server evaluation and start off with RDS and see how you get on, I believe Citrix and VMware have trials for their products as well.
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I'm having a morning, and I'm pissed off well beyond my limit.
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Been at the office since 6AM, and I'm still stuck here because of shady ass antics.
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@DustinB3403 your weekend not going to plan then?
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@StuartJordan said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 your weekend not going to plan then?
About as good to be expected, also I have my bussing hat on today!
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@StuartJordan I have experience with some of what you described. At work, we ran a two server Citrix Farm ca. 2006 maybe V6 and have had a TS server along with that since. What I've never tried is VDI and it seems that I probably won't.
That being said, I'm curious what I could do pushing out desktops and or apps with XCP-NG. I see a choice to make a vApp from a VM, just haven't explored it. I'm curious if I can create an advantage, what would happen with available resources, how it scales, those sorts of things.
If this webinar will help me understand better, then I'll sign up for it. My curiosity has the better of me when it comes to this stuff. I just have to create the time. -
How is it that anyone can think a problem is resolved, by using a demo; when you paid for the correct thing? You paid for this, yes? Then where is our full license to cover this?
How come you have to request another demo to "bandaid" this hemorrhage of an issue?
That bandaid ISN'T a fix! Get the correct license and apply it to our hosts. Why the hell else would we have paid for it in the first place if not to use it!?!
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More so, if I can't even see the account these things are under, then how in the hell am I supposed to be expected to fix the issue?
If you want to take a vacation and disappear for a weekend. Fine, go for it. Have a great time. But make the **** sure that I can do the job. If you're hiding or not providing information as it pertains to our jobs, you're sabotaging the company!
It would be one thing, like "whoops I forgot to share those credentials".
It's another issue entirely if nothing works because of an issue that has been discussed repeatedly, and been mentioned to get fixed months ago!
Oh the vendor screwed up? OKay well put me on the phone with them and I'll get them to fix the issue. Instead of dragging ass and letting months go by with this issue existing going unresolved.
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@DustinB3403 I can understand your frustration, I've had this on various occasions, one comes to mind was a company had Adobe licence subscription and installed demos because they couldn't remember which email account out of 20 they registered them to..... sigh....a simple job becomes a pain in the ass...
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@StuartJordan said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Don't overthink VDI, it's really just a collection of VM's with management tools for automatically creating machines from base images, load balancing, gateway management etc.
Even that is more than it needs to be. VDI itself means nothing more than "virtualized desktops." Install Fedora desktop in a VM, that's VDI. Original VDI was never more than that. All that other stuff is later "VDI extras" that get layered on top. Good stuff, but way more than what VDI implies, and not needed for lots of deployments.
NTG has a VDI setup for our people, we don't use any of that, it's all overhead that isn't needed, for example.
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@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If this webinar will help me understand better, then I'll sign up for it. My curiosity has the better of me when it comes to this stuff. I just have to create the time.
Im' interested but the ad said it was all open source, but the vendor in question seems to have no info about their source or licensing anywhere.
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@StuartJordan said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 I can understand your frustration, I've had this on various occasions, one comes to mind was a company had Adobe licence subscription and installed demos because they couldn't remember which email account out of 20 they registered them to..... sigh....a simple job becomes a pain in the ass...
It's not just frustration. These are things, that should be resolved within a week at most. If a vendor messes up, and assigns licenses to a wrong account or something. No biggie.
But if months later the issue is still present, and there has been zero progress on getting the issue fixed that means the person who is "handling it" isn't handling it and is likely hiding something.
It also means I can't even jump in to help and remedy the issue.
I could maybe go out, and purchase additional totally separate licensing and have it documented. But at what cost? $1318/cpu and then activate one host and then migrate VMs to that host so that they can be powered on.
But that isn't a fix. That's an attempted coverup. And it needs to be brought to the light.
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And for someone to have the audacity to claim that I should call my coworker while they're on vacation to fix an issue that they've (the coworker) said would be fixed over and over for the same months now by that coworker is adding into trying to coverup a fuck up. And that is unacceptable.
Rather than calling my boss and tell him, hey, there is an issue, to get it fixed from what I can see if going to cost X at a minimum today. Can I get your approval on it?
Which I did just that, called my boss, told him the issue and told him what it would cost. He routed in my coworker to see if the licensing is somewhere, and my coworker started making claims that I'm somehow at fault for not calling him first when this entire issue is because I; 1) don't have access to see the license that was supposedly purchased 2) he never got the vendor to square aware the supposed misassignment of the licenses like it should've happened months ago!
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@DustinB3403 time to call the boss back and ask if they can find these licenses. Keep the boss in the loop at each stage of "now he says it is here... it is not" and "now he's sending me here, it isn't there either."
If at the end of the day he comes up with a license, he will leverage that. But if the boss witnessed the non-stop hiding as it happens, it'll be different. Just make sure the boss thinks you are updating him, don't let the frustration come through.
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I could see going ahead and using a trial license to get by for a week or two while the vendor corrects the "licensing assignment" fuck-up.
But not to continually "re-up" on a trial license when licenses have been purchased for now for MONTHS!
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If this webinar will help me understand better, then I'll sign up for it. My curiosity has the better of me when it comes to this stuff. I just have to create the time.
Im' interested but the ad said it was all open source, but the vendor in question seems to have no info about their source or licensing anywhere.
Open source is what piqued my interest
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@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If this webinar will help me understand better, then I'll sign up for it. My curiosity has the better of me when it comes to this stuff. I just have to create the time.
Im' interested but the ad said it was all open source, but the vendor in question seems to have no info about their source or licensing anywhere.
Open source is what piqued my interest
Yeah, could be really cool. But they don't make it seem like it is open source when you go to the site at all.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If this webinar will help me understand better, then I'll sign up for it. My curiosity has the better of me when it comes to this stuff. I just have to create the time.
Im' interested but the ad said it was all open source, but the vendor in question seems to have no info about their source or licensing anywhere.
Open source is what piqued my interest
Yeah, could be really cool. But they don't make it seem like it is open source when you go to the site at all.
If I remember correctly, our Citrix / Terminial Services solution cost around $25k with hardware, software & setup and we could only handle about 30-35 connections before we tapped out. And that was in the early 2000's.
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@scotth said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Open source solutions seem like worth pursuing even with the learning curve on my part.
If they exist
The seminar, I think, seems to be trying to sell a non-open product on top of open source. From what I can tell, there is no open source in the "VDI solution" portion. If there is, they totally hide it. Go look at the web site, there is no way to get the source whatsoever and zero mention of a license.
Terminal services is different from VDI and you can do that today for free with open source. And you can do VDI with open source - just install any desktop VM on KVM or Xen and ta da... full stack open source VDI. That's literally all it takes.
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Family went to the zoo. I'm at home with my eldest just hanging out.
