What Are You Doing Right Now
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Why do people get so confused about MS licensing? I mean it's no GPL, but come on. Am I the only one that feels much of it is obvious and what isn't is pretty decently spelled out in the EULA? Someone asked a question, I immediately could tell it was going to be non-viable because it is so obviously going to be a EULA violation and so double checked the EULA and had a clear and concise answer in like 30 seconds.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2000182-hyper-v-on-windows-10-for-very-small-firm
Most of the thread I get, people looking for use case clarification and that's totally cool. but then the expected rant by someone that expects something ridiculously unreasonable, claims things are too complicated to be viable and then claims to have answers but clearly doesn't understand the TECH at all... I suppose that's why he doesn't understand the EULA.
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@scottalanmiller A lot of the confusion comes from microsoft reps giving you misinformation, which has happened to me at least 4 times now.
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller A lot of the confusion comes from microsoft reps giving you misinformation, which has happened to me at least 4 times now.
Well, to some degree, that's your fault. That's an inappropriate resource for getting licensing advice. Unless they are specifically a licensing advisor that exists for that purpose, it's not their job to tell you and you shouldn't be asking them. They wouldn't be good resources for any technical advice, either, they are reps, not your engineers.
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Tagging @Chris who can commiserate on that thread
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller A lot of the confusion comes from microsoft reps giving you misinformation, which has happened to me at least 4 times now.
Well, to some degree, that's your fault. That's an inappropriate resource for getting licensing advice. Unless they are specifically a licensing advisor that exists for that purpose, it's not their job to tell you and you shouldn't be asking them. They wouldn't be good resources for any technical advice, either, they are reps, not your engineers.
Agreed, but I wouldn't have the expectation of spiceworks peeps knowing this. I myself didn't a few years ago.
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller A lot of the confusion comes from microsoft reps giving you misinformation, which has happened to me at least 4 times now.
Well, to some degree, that's your fault. That's an inappropriate resource for getting licensing advice. Unless they are specifically a licensing advisor that exists for that purpose, it's not their job to tell you and you shouldn't be asking them. They wouldn't be good resources for any technical advice, either, they are reps, not your engineers.
Agreed, but I wouldn't have the expectation of spiceworks peeps knowing this. I myself didn't a few years ago.
Honestly, any adult should know this. It's just a general adulting skill - don't ask for advice from random people. I mean like "do you like the colour of my shirt", whatever. but you are asking very technical legal advice from completely random people - that's something everyone should know not to do, it's just a life skill. There is nothing IT, Microsoft or vendor related in that.
Apply it to other things in life, what random sales people would you outside of IT ask for things like legal advice?
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller A lot of the confusion comes from microsoft reps giving you misinformation, which has happened to me at least 4 times now.
Well, to some degree, that's your fault. That's an inappropriate resource for getting licensing advice. Unless they are specifically a licensing advisor that exists for that purpose, it's not their job to tell you and you shouldn't be asking them. They wouldn't be good resources for any technical advice, either, they are reps, not your engineers.
Agreed, but I wouldn't have the expectation of spiceworks peeps knowing this. I myself didn't a few years ago.
Honestly, any adult should know this. It's just a general adulting skill - don't ask for advice from random people. I mean like "do you like the colour of my shirt", whatever. but you are asking very technical legal advice from completely random people - that's something everyone should know not to do, it's just a life skill. There is nothing IT, Microsoft or vendor related in that.
Apply it to other things in life, what random sales people would you outside of IT ask for things like legal advice?
They are at the very least associated with Microsoft, it's just not in the capacity you would need it to be in this scenario
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
They are at the very least associated with Microsoft, it's just not in the capacity you would need it to be in this scenario
So you'd ask the janitor at a law firm for legal advice because he works for a law firm? You've worked for companies before, do you have insider knowledge or speak on behalf of them? What if random people today asked you for guidance on city ordnances or something? Would you be a sensible person to ask? But they would say "but he works for the city", right?
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
They are at the very least associated with Microsoft, it's just not in the capacity you would need it to be in this scenario
So you'd ask the janitor at a law firm for legal advice because he works for a law firm? You've worked for companies before, do you have insider knowledge or speak on behalf of them? What if random people today asked you for guidance on city ordnances or something? Would you be a sensible person to ask? But they would say "but he works for the city", right?
No because he's also not in the capacity I would need him to be to get the information I'm looking for
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Places I've worked include state and federal government, Wall St. investment banking, sovereign funds, research hospitals, and a lot more. But choosing me as the person to guide you on kidney transplant options, national banking currency manipulation, spot trading, how to bride a senator or how to get a recommendation to West Point are all things that would be crazy.
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waiting for a website to restore so I can redo the fixes that I fixed this morning... smh hurry up and wait.
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
No because he's also not in the capacity I would need him to be to get the information I'm looking for
Right, same here. The reps are not there to provide YOUR legal oversight.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
No because he's also not in the capacity I would need him to be to get the information I'm looking for
Right, same here. The reps are not there to provide YOUR legal oversight.
Right, we agree. I do think that it's hard to expect that from a normal user though because "of course they would call the company they are licensing from." That the thinking process of my average user for sure.
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
No because he's also not in the capacity I would need him to be to get the information I'm looking for
Right, same here. The reps are not there to provide YOUR legal oversight.
Right, we agree. I do think that it's hard to expect that from a normal user though because "of course they would call the company they are licensing from." That the thinking process of my average user for sure.
But why the f*** would a normal user be doing this this is an IT job. For fucks sake man
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
No because he's also not in the capacity I would need him to be to get the information I'm looking for
Right, same here. The reps are not there to provide YOUR legal oversight.
Right, we agree. I do think that it's hard to expect that from a normal user though because "of course they would call the company they are licensing from." That the thinking process of my average user for sure.
I expect better than this from all adults. Your legal advice always comes from YOUR lawyer, not theirs. This is just "everyday adulting."
You expect this knowledge from anyone getting married, divorced, buying a car, buying a house, renting an apartment, renting a car, taking a job, going to college, etc. Anything where you are signing a contract, your legal advice comes from your side, not the "enemy's" side.
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
No because he's also not in the capacity I would need him to be to get the information I'm looking for
Right, same here. The reps are not there to provide YOUR legal oversight.
Right, we agree. I do think that it's hard to expect that from a normal user though because "of course they would call the company they are licensing from." That the thinking process of my average user for sure.
But why the f*** would a normal user be doing this this is an IT job. For fucks sake man
You just described 75% of spiceworks
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Made it to Sweden, and finally set up and kinda settled in.
Only a 9 hour time zone difference and almost no night time to get used to...
Little quirk with the internet set-up... I think relating to how the wire from the wall to the cable modem. It was routed through the side of the door with the hinges and was severely pinched. Internet company coming out tomorrow morning to fix whatever the issue is.
(from a building down the street - below)
(from the apartment - below)
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@Tim_G Dude. Christmas lights? It's JUNE.
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@Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Tim_G Dude. Christmas lights? It's JUNE.
It's always Christmas in Sweden.
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@Grey No, just white decorative lights. They are with the apartment we are renting, so who knows.
