What Are You Doing Right Now
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
There ARE people who like Zelda, but they are definitely few and far between. The number of people who talk about it are much higher than those that play it. My wife claims she loves it, but will never play it because in reality she does not enjoy it.
Eh, Hyperlight Drifter is basically an updated Zelda more or less. That game was and is super popular.
Oh, I know the game. That's not a Zelda clone by any stretch at all. That's just a modern throwback ARPG. I think you are confusing the genre and the 8/16bit style with the Zelda games. Zelda games have been 3D for the majority of the series lifespans. Zelda in no way implies a certain style of graphics or age of game.
I've played most of the incarnations. I like the older style more but you're saying that "Zelda is the worst JRPG franchise ever". That means all incarnations right?
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
There ARE people who like Zelda, but they are definitely few and far between. The number of people who talk about it are much higher than those that play it. My wife claims she loves it, but will never play it because in reality she does not enjoy it.
Eh, Hyperlight Drifter is basically an updated Zelda more or less. That game was and is super popular.
Never heard of that. But games "like" Zelda, but are well made, are in no way indicative of the quality of Zelda itself. Unless it copies Zelda's totally awful game design and gameplay, it's not "basically like" Zelda at all. Are you just saying that it is an ARPG genre game?
All this talk about Zelda makes me want to go play it again... and the follow up ones as well. I can't say I've played anything after the first SNES one.
The first (and only) SNES title is, from what I can tell, the highlight of the series. The two that game before it, like most games of their era, were "novelty" games - fun because they were video games, not because they were good. The SNES let them make a decent game, but not on par with other JRPGs on the same system. But it was a big deal because it was Nintendo's own IP and part of an existing franchise.
The N64 took Zelda in new directions (blurry ones, mostly) and some people, like my wife, feel that this was the highlight of the series. I've tried these titles over and over and found them to be awful. Terrible graphics, terrible gameplay, worthless storytelling (if any.) I keep trying Zelda titles trying to find what people claim to like about them and keep finding them empty, half assed marketing fodder. Wind Waker is the best that I've played, and it's awful.
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.
Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?
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I replay the original Legend of Zelda yearly.
It is always a trial to get the NES to load the ROM properly and not the flashing power thing.
As always, @scottalanmiller is talking out of his ass. He paints broad strokes of 'fact' based on his experiences, while said experiences are far from the average person.
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
There ARE people who like Zelda, but they are definitely few and far between. The number of people who talk about it are much higher than those that play it. My wife claims she loves it, but will never play it because in reality she does not enjoy it.
Eh, Hyperlight Drifter is basically an updated Zelda more or less. That game was and is super popular.
Never heard of that. But games "like" Zelda, but are well made, are in no way indicative of the quality of Zelda itself. Unless it copies Zelda's totally awful game design and gameplay, it's not "basically like" Zelda at all. Are you just saying that it is an ARPG genre game?
All this talk about Zelda makes me want to go play it again... and the follow up ones as well. I can't say I've played anything after the first SNES one.
The only Zelda that I ever played was the first one on the original NES. Great, now I'm showing my age.
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I replay the original Legend of Zelda yearly.
It is always a trial to get the NES to load the ROM properly and not the flashing power thing.
As always, @scottalanmiller is talking out of his ass. He paints broad strokes of 'fact' based on his experiences, while said experiences are far from the average person.
I've never met anyone that actually plays and likes the originals. I'm not saying that there isn't a niche market and people who play them. But the people talking about them are rarely people who play them.
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@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
There ARE people who like Zelda, but they are definitely few and far between. The number of people who talk about it are much higher than those that play it. My wife claims she loves it, but will never play it because in reality she does not enjoy it.
Eh, Hyperlight Drifter is basically an updated Zelda more or less. That game was and is super popular.
Never heard of that. But games "like" Zelda, but are well made, are in no way indicative of the quality of Zelda itself. Unless it copies Zelda's totally awful game design and gameplay, it's not "basically like" Zelda at all. Are you just saying that it is an ARPG genre game?
All this talk about Zelda makes me want to go play it again... and the follow up ones as well. I can't say I've played anything after the first SNES one.
The only Zelda that I ever played was the first one on the original NES. Great, now I'm showing my age.
There were two on the NES, one on the SNES.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.
Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?
Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best.
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@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just heard the tale of a friend's uncle (former nasa scientist) who, when applying to work at Northrop Grumman, encrypted his resume and nobody could open it.... He got the job.
That one sounds a little farfetched unless there was something else that got him the job in addition to the resume.
When he made a follow up call, he apparently got to talk to the right people. Plus, the contents of the resume, once decrypted by him, actually got him the job.
Encrypting something so it's not openable by someone else really shouldn't be all that hard. Seems like a red herring.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
There ARE people who like Zelda, but they are definitely few and far between. The number of people who talk about it are much higher than those that play it. My wife claims she loves it, but will never play it because in reality she does not enjoy it.
Eh, Hyperlight Drifter is basically an updated Zelda more or less. That game was and is super popular.
Never heard of that. But games "like" Zelda, but are well made, are in no way indicative of the quality of Zelda itself. Unless it copies Zelda's totally awful game design and gameplay, it's not "basically like" Zelda at all. Are you just saying that it is an ARPG genre game?
All this talk about Zelda makes me want to go play it again... and the follow up ones as well. I can't say I've played anything after the first SNES one.
The only Zelda that I ever played was the first one on the original NES. Great, now I'm showing my age.
There were two on the NES, one on the SNES.
That's why I specified the first one
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.
Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?
Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best
Yes, but they were contemporaries on the same platform. If you aren't comparing it against the good games of the era, what do you compare against to call it a fantastic game? Or are you saying that the entire era was pretty much amazing? I'm not saying that it was the worst of the era, but it was in an era with some pretty amazing competition. What titles do you feel it was better than, for example?
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just heard the tale of a friend's uncle (former nasa scientist) who, when applying to work at Northrop Grumman, encrypted his resume and nobody could open it.... He got the job.
That one sounds a little farfetched unless there was something else that got him the job in addition to the resume.
When he made a follow up call, he apparently got to talk to the right people. Plus, the contents of the resume, once decrypted by him, actually got him the job.
Encrypting something so it's not openable by someone else really shouldn't be all that hard. Seems like a red herring.
Exactly, this suggests to me that NG's hiring manager was an idiot or we are lacking the significant parts of the story.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
There ARE people who like Zelda, but they are definitely few and far between. The number of people who talk about it are much higher than those that play it. My wife claims she loves it, but will never play it because in reality she does not enjoy it.
Eh, Hyperlight Drifter is basically an updated Zelda more or less. That game was and is super popular.
Never heard of that. But games "like" Zelda, but are well made, are in no way indicative of the quality of Zelda itself. Unless it copies Zelda's totally awful game design and gameplay, it's not "basically like" Zelda at all. Are you just saying that it is an ARPG genre game?
All this talk about Zelda makes me want to go play it again... and the follow up ones as well. I can't say I've played anything after the first SNES one.
The only Zelda that I ever played was the first one on the original NES. Great, now I'm showing my age.
There were two on the NES, one on the SNES.
Legend of Zelda 2 was pretty bad
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just heard the tale of a friend's uncle (former nasa scientist) who, when applying to work at Northrop Grumman, encrypted his resume and nobody could open it.... He got the job.
That one sounds a little farfetched unless there was something else that got him the job in addition to the resume.
When he made a follow up call, he apparently got to talk to the right people. Plus, the contents of the resume, once decrypted by him, actually got him the job.
Encrypting something so it's not openable by someone else really shouldn't be all that hard. Seems like a red herring.
Exactly, this suggests to me that NG's hiring manager was an idiot or we are lacking the significant parts of the story.
No, encrypting a resume so that it autodecrypts based on the logged on username of the computer attempting to access it? That might get you hired. Just encrypting would get the resume dumped.
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Time for gum graft, round two. First one was easy. Liquid diet.
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@Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just heard the tale of a friend's uncle (former nasa scientist) who, when applying to work at Northrop Grumman, encrypted his resume and nobody could open it.... He got the job.
That one sounds a little farfetched unless there was something else that got him the job in addition to the resume.
When he made a follow up call, he apparently got to talk to the right people. Plus, the contents of the resume, once decrypted by him, actually got him the job.
Encrypting something so it's not openable by someone else really shouldn't be all that hard. Seems like a red herring.
Exactly, this suggests to me that NG's hiring manager was an idiot or we are lacking the significant parts of the story.
No, encrypting a resume so that it autodecrypts based on the logged on username of the computer attempting to access it? That might get you hired. Just encrypting would get the resume dumped.
Exactly. If someone just sent me a file that could not be viewed, it would go straight to the bin.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.
Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?
Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best
Yes, but they were contemporaries on the same platform. If you aren't comparing it against the good games of the era, what do you compare against to call it a fantastic game? Or are you saying that the entire era was pretty much amazing? I'm not saying that it was the worst of the era, but it was in an era with some pretty amazing competition. What titles do you feel it was better than, for example?
There's a lot of crappy games for the SNES that came out in 1991. Inindo: Way of the Ninja is one example, but there are a lot of them. I can't think of a game that has come out in the past decade that I can honestly say is better than either Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana though regardless of the technological advances we've made. I don't personally care about graphics I only care about the gameplay. I actually really liked this game called Crawl which is on steam but only supports local multiplayer. One of my projects is going to be building an arcade machine of it.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just heard the tale of a friend's uncle (former nasa scientist) who, when applying to work at Northrop Grumman, encrypted his resume and nobody could open it.... He got the job.
That one sounds a little farfetched unless there was something else that got him the job in addition to the resume.
When he made a follow up call, he apparently got to talk to the right people. Plus, the contents of the resume, once decrypted by him, actually got him the job.
Encrypting something so it's not openable by someone else really shouldn't be all that hard. Seems like a red herring.
Exactly, this suggests to me that NG's hiring manager was an idiot or we are lacking the significant parts of the story.
No, encrypting a resume so that it autodecrypts based on the logged on username of the computer attempting to access it? That might get you hired. Just encrypting would get the resume dumped.
Exactly. If someone just sent me a file that could not be viewed, it would go straight to the bin.
Interview, in a nutshell:
boss- we're looking for a good unicorn hunter
me- I'm a spectacular unicorn hunter
boss- oh yeah? why do you say that?
me- do you see any unicorns running around these parts?
boss- wow. you're hired! -
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.
Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?
Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best
Yes, but they were contemporaries on the same platform. If you aren't comparing it against the good games of the era, what do you compare against to call it a fantastic game? Or are you saying that the entire era was pretty much amazing? I'm not saying that it was the worst of the era, but it was in an era with some pretty amazing competition. What titles do you feel it was better than, for example?
There's a lot of crappy games for the SNES that came out in 1991. Inindo: Way of the Ninja is one example, but there are a lot of them. I can't think of a game that has come out in the past decade that I can honestly say is better than either Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana though regardless of the technological advances we've made. I don't personally care about graphics I only care about the gameplay. I actually really liked this game called Crawl which is on steam but only supports local multiplayer. One of my projects is going to be building an arcade machine of it.
Well people don't really make JRPGs that much. Those that do come out are mostly one person or two person projects. Which has its benefits - more games, freedom to explore different ideas. But it is nearly impossible to get the programmers, writers, artists and such to make a Chrono Trigger again in the SNES era style because no one will buy it that much. But if you look at where the JRPG genre and the ARPG genres have gone since then, I think what people are making today that descended from those games are even better. Like Mass Effect, for example.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre A link to the past was fantastic.
Have you played counterpart games of the era? Do you feel that it is fantastic compared to what else there was on the same technology like Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger?
Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger are two of the best RPG's ever but I don't compare every game to the best games of all time. A game can still be good without being the best
Yes, but they were contemporaries on the same platform. If you aren't comparing it against the good games of the era, what do you compare against to call it a fantastic game? Or are you saying that the entire era was pretty much amazing? I'm not saying that it was the worst of the era, but it was in an era with some pretty amazing competition. What titles do you feel it was better than, for example?
There's a lot of crappy games for the SNES that came out in 1991. Inindo: Way of the Ninja is one example, but there are a lot of them. I can't think of a game that has come out in the past decade that I can honestly say is better than either Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana though regardless of the technological advances we've made. I don't personally care about graphics I only care about the gameplay. I actually really liked this game called Crawl which is on steam but only supports local multiplayer. One of my projects is going to be building an arcade machine of it.
Well people don't really make JRPGs that much. Those that do come out are mostly one person or two person projects. Which has its benefits - more games, freedom to explore different ideas. But it is nearly impossible to get the programmers, writers, artists and such to make a Chrono Trigger again in the SNES era style because no one will buy it that much. But if you look at where the JRPG genre and the ARPG genres have gone since then, I think what people are making today that descended from those games are even better. Like Mass Effect, for example.
When I hear JRPG it sends me back to the persona RPG's or Disgaea which were an actual exercise in madness. The amount of grinding you had to do in these games make them essentially unplayable imo.
