What Are You Doing Right Now

@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

https://freedompenguin.com/articles/opinion/mom-runs-linux/

Interesting read.

I saw Scott's post of this yesterday.

I'm really curious what this admittedly non user did in Linux that made her life so much better than it was in Windows 7?

Sorry for the repost. It seems like she really started to experiment with the desktop after Linux was installed. That very well could have been because she didn't have the time or inclination to do it previously. Or that Linux encourages that kind of experimentation.

Dashrender

@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

https://freedompenguin.com/articles/opinion/mom-runs-linux/

Interesting read.

I saw Scott's post of this yesterday.

I'm really curious what this admittedly non user did in Linux that made her life so much better than it was in Windows 7?

Sorry for the repost. It seems like she really started to experiment with the desktop after Linux was installed. That very well could have been because she didn't have the time or inclination to do it previously. Or that Linux encourages that kind of experimentation.

Oh don't be

I seriously doubt Linux encouraged her to start doing more. Is it possible, sure, likely? I don't think so. I'm not really sure what we are suppose to learn from this article. As Scott would say, it's a red herring. OK maybe not a complete red herring, but definitely not as awe inspiring as it might appear on the surface.

We have a user who uses their computer for the barest essentials, minor web surfing and email. After 5 years it's the cleanest Windows 7 PC he's probably ever seen. Along comes Windows 10 upgrade and it breaks the computer. Instead of resolving that, the writer decides to have his mother try Linux instead. Considering the type of user she is, I fully expect it to work perfectly well. He setup FireFox and Thunderbird, the two main apps she already had experience with. At some future time she decided that she wanted to start scanning photos and working on a family tree. What does that have to do with the OS?

I'm glad she was able to continue to function, but at the same time it's entirely likely that had he fixed her Windows 10 issues that she would have functioned identically there - still calling to figure out how to scan, how to convert a document (assuming he moved her to LibreOffice on Windows), etc.

coliver

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

https://freedompenguin.com/articles/opinion/mom-runs-linux/

Interesting read.

I saw Scott's post of this yesterday.

I'm really curious what this admittedly non user did in Linux that made her life so much better than it was in Windows 7?

Sorry for the repost. It seems like she really started to experiment with the desktop after Linux was installed. That very well could have been because she didn't have the time or inclination to do it previously. Or that Linux encourages that kind of experimentation.

Oh don't be

I seriously doubt Linux encouraged her to start doing more. Is it possible, sure, likely? I don't think so. I'm not really sure what we are suppose to learn from this article. As Scott would say, it's a red herring. OK maybe not a complete red herring, but definitely not as awe inspiring as it might appear on the surface.

We have a user who uses their computer for the barest essentials, minor web surfing and email. After 5 years it's the cleanest Windows 7 PC he's probably ever seen. Along comes Windows 10 upgrade and it breaks the computer. Instead of resolving that, the writer decides to have his mother try Linux instead. Considering the type of user she is, I fully expect it to work perfectly well. He setup FireFox and Thunderbird, the two main apps she already had experience with. At some future time she decided that she wanted to start scanning photos and working on a family tree. What does that have to do with the OS?

I'm glad she was able to continue to function, but at the same time it's entirely likely that had he fixed her Windows 10 issues that she would have functioned identically there - still calling to figure out how to scan, how to convert a document (assuming he moved her to LibreOffice on Windows), etc.

You're probably right, this is a user who previously didn't have the inclination to use the device as much as she does now. No issues with that argument.

I think the point of the article was that for most users moving to Linux, Mint in this case, wouldn't be a big deal. The majority of applications and devices work on the system, except the 7 year old Dell printer apparently, and moving between the two wouldn't be a big deal. It's not an argument of Linux is better then Windows, it's an argument of, Linux isn't hard to use at all even the most basic desktop users can interact with it without any issues.

travisdh1

Wow, the regurgitated "knowledge" is getting deep today. https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1840385-new-server-advice-re-disks?page=1#entry-6236146

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

https://freedompenguin.com/articles/opinion/mom-runs-linux/

Interesting read.

I saw Scott's post of this yesterday.

I'm really curious what this admittedly non user did in Linux that made her life so much better than it was in Windows 7?

Sorry for the repost. It seems like she really started to experiment with the desktop after Linux was installed. That very well could have been because she didn't have the time or inclination to do it previously. Or that Linux encourages that kind of experimentation.

Oh don't be

I seriously doubt Linux encouraged her to start doing more. Is it possible, sure, likely? I don't think so. I'm not really sure what we are suppose to learn from this article. As Scott would say, it's a red herring. OK maybe not a complete red herring, but definitely not as awe inspiring as it might appear on the surface.

We have a user who uses their computer for the barest essentials, minor web surfing and email. After 5 years it's the cleanest Windows 7 PC he's probably ever seen. Along comes Windows 10 upgrade and it breaks the computer. Instead of resolving that, the writer decides to have his mother try Linux instead. Considering the type of user she is, I fully expect it to work perfectly well. He setup FireFox and Thunderbird, the two main apps she already had experience with. At some future time she decided that she wanted to start scanning photos and working on a family tree. What does that have to do with the OS?

I'm glad she was able to continue to function, but at the same time it's entirely likely that had he fixed her Windows 10 issues that she would have functioned identically there - still calling to figure out how to scan, how to convert a document (assuming he moved her to LibreOffice on Windows), etc.

Maybe the big difference is... needing to fix things versus having them just work.

brianlittlejohn

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

https://freedompenguin.com/articles/opinion/mom-runs-linux/

Interesting read.

I saw Scott's post of this yesterday.

I'm really curious what this admittedly non user did in Linux that made her life so much better than it was in Windows 7?

Sorry for the repost. It seems like she really started to experiment with the desktop after Linux was installed. That very well could have been because she didn't have the time or inclination to do it previously. Or that Linux encourages that kind of experimentation.

Oh don't be

I seriously doubt Linux encouraged her to start doing more. Is it possible, sure, likely? I don't think so. I'm not really sure what we are suppose to learn from this article. As Scott would say, it's a red herring. OK maybe not a complete red herring, but definitely not as awe inspiring as it might appear on the surface.

We have a user who uses their computer for the barest essentials, minor web surfing and email. After 5 years it's the cleanest Windows 7 PC he's probably ever seen. Along comes Windows 10 upgrade and it breaks the computer. Instead of resolving that, the writer decides to have his mother try Linux instead. Considering the type of user she is, I fully expect it to work perfectly well. He setup FireFox and Thunderbird, the two main apps she already had experience with. At some future time she decided that she wanted to start scanning photos and working on a family tree. What does that have to do with the OS?

I'm glad she was able to continue to function, but at the same time it's entirely likely that had he fixed her Windows 10 issues that she would have functioned identically there - still calling to figure out how to scan, how to convert a document (assuming he moved her to LibreOffice on Windows), etc.

Maybe the big difference is... needing to fix things versus having them just work.

How is Linux Mint running on your RoG? lol

scottalanmiller

@brianlittlejohn said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

https://freedompenguin.com/articles/opinion/mom-runs-linux/

Interesting read.

I saw Scott's post of this yesterday.

I'm really curious what this admittedly non user did in Linux that made her life so much better than it was in Windows 7?

Sorry for the repost. It seems like she really started to experiment with the desktop after Linux was installed. That very well could have been because she didn't have the time or inclination to do it previously. Or that Linux encourages that kind of experimentation.

Oh don't be

I seriously doubt Linux encouraged her to start doing more. Is it possible, sure, likely? I don't think so. I'm not really sure what we are suppose to learn from this article. As Scott would say, it's a red herring. OK maybe not a complete red herring, but definitely not as awe inspiring as it might appear on the surface.

We have a user who uses their computer for the barest essentials, minor web surfing and email. After 5 years it's the cleanest Windows 7 PC he's probably ever seen. Along comes Windows 10 upgrade and it breaks the computer. Instead of resolving that, the writer decides to have his mother try Linux instead. Considering the type of user she is, I fully expect it to work perfectly well. He setup FireFox and Thunderbird, the two main apps she already had experience with. At some future time she decided that she wanted to start scanning photos and working on a family tree. What does that have to do with the OS?

I'm glad she was able to continue to function, but at the same time it's entirely likely that had he fixed her Windows 10 issues that she would have functioned identically there - still calling to figure out how to scan, how to convert a document (assuming he moved her to LibreOffice on Windows), etc.

Maybe the big difference is... needing to fix things versus having them just work.

How is Linux Mint running on your RoG? lol

Ha. Considering how well Ubuntu runs, though, and how much better than everyone else's Windows 10 and that there is zero support or thought given to Linux by Asus.... it's amazing. Yeah Mint doesn't get installed, but end users aren't installing Windows 10 either. If we are comparing how well it RUNS, Linux is so far ahead.

Dashrender

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Maybe the big difference is... needing to fix things versus having them just work.

There weren't any problems with his mom's Windows 7 install either. I'm guessing that when she did call it was for things that the same user would call for on any platform - hey son, my PC is asking something about updates, etc.

Granted, the less likeliness of drive-by downloads, etc is among the greatest advantages, but he didn't mention that something like that ever happened to her.

RojoLoco

Wondering how to test a SAS drive... one of my servers is showing 1 drive as "missing". We will be buying a new drive (or 2), but I'd love to be able to determine if it's actually the drive or some kind of cabling or backplane issue.

travisdh1

@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Wondering how to test a SAS drive... one of my servers is showing 1 drive as "missing". We will be buying a new drive (or 2), but I'd love to be able to determine if it's actually the drive or some kind of cabling or backplane issue.

SAS? They don't make USB to SAS cables like they do USB to SATA. I've got an external dock here I drop drives into, if they show up in the system, the drive requires more troubleshooting.

RojoLoco

@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Wondering how to test a SAS drive... one of my servers is showing 1 drive as "missing". We will be buying a new drive (or 2), but I'd love to be able to determine if it's actually the drive or some kind of cabling or backplane issue.

SAS? They don't make USB to SAS cables like they do USB to SATA. I've got an external dock here I drop drives into, if they show up in the system, the drive requires more troubleshooting.

My external dock is SATA. I guess I'll move drives around to see if it might be the drive slot. I've never seen a controller report a drive as missing when it was physically present. Usually says bad, failed, etc.

art_of_shred

@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Wondering how to test a SAS drive... one of my servers is showing 1 drive as "missing". We will be buying a new drive (or 2), but I'd love to be able to determine if it's actually the drive or some kind of cabling or backplane issue.

SAS? They don't make USB to SAS cables like they do USB to SATA. I've got an external dock here I drop drives into, if they show up in the system, the drive requires more troubleshooting.

My external dock is SATA. I guess I'll move drives around to see if it might be the drive slot. I've never seen a controller report a drive as missing when it was physically present. Usually says bad, failed, etc.

Good idea. Start troubleshooting at the physical level.