What Are You Doing Right Now
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I was called a salesperson on SW today for providing guidance and information for Xen Orchestra, on a post where the OP asked for advice on how to backup his XenServer VMs.
And I followed it up with "you get the block level backup's for free except for the ~20 minutes to set it up, and still are able to have the file level backups in case you need that as well"
If that makes me a damn sales person where the hell is the paycheck?
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Like how the hell am I trying to make a sale, by providing the Guide here on ML on how to configure XO for free on an existing infrastructure.
I didn't even say it works great with NAS xyz or this that the other thing.
The level of stupid is becoming to much.
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@DustinB3403 said:
Like how the hell am I trying to make a sale, by providing the Guide here on ML on how to configure XO for free on an existing infrastructure.
I didn't even say it works great with NAS xyz or this that the other thing.
The level of stupid is becoming to much.
It's sad because that kind of thing used to be embraced, but now they are so freaking paranoid about if someone is posting who is supposed to be a GG and isn't, and so they create blanket policies that break how the community functioned for years. A huge part of that is why ML was created in the first place!
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@thanksajdotcom The funny thing was this claim was made by a member recommending Acronis.
Something you must purchase, and I was called more of a salesperson that Katie is.
Who literally has vendor tags there. Who's goal is to promote a product with the goal for making a sale.
Literally no sales at all for the open source stuff, like what the crap is that.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@thanksajdotcom The funny thing was this claim was made by a member recommending Acronis.
Something you must purchase, and I was called more of a salesperson that Katie is.
Who literally has vendor tags there. Who's goal is to promote a product with the goal for making a sale.
Literally no sales at all for the open source stuff, like what the crap is that.
Yup, because about three years ago, it went from being a community with really good, interactive vendors to basically a giant CRM that you had to pay to access. But one of the policies of this site is to try to avoid bashing "over there", and avoid excessive us vs them discussions on the forums. It does nothing good and lots bad. So I'm going to end this conversation now, but I'll conclude with the thought that it's because of sentiments like yours and many other factors that this community was created, and I'm very proud to have been a part of that, and proud to have been a big part of helping this community experience great "organic growth".
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I think I go back for the drama....
I really just want to start on a tyrant for the level of stupidity over there. Much like the Jackoff who was so proud of his IPOD a few month ago, and had the topic deleted because the SW mods thought the community was ripping into him, rather than what we were doing which was trying to get him to see how his system design was overly expensive and dangerous, along with ways to correct it.
Instead, topic deleted, Scott opens a topic about how the community is a shit-show and how professionalism is more an Ego-trip there and that people putting advice up (without service tags) is basically frowned upon.
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@DustinB3403 said:
I'm quitting the SW community as a whole, there is just to much stupid accumulating over there for me to deal without me having an aneurysm.
That's what I hear a lot. People get frustrated and leave. At first you can't tell that it's not a one time thing or a special case. Eventually it just starts to wear you down... the same silly questions, the same not bothering to research, the same pointless arguments over and over.
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I was thankfully invited here by @scottalanmiller
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The problem that they are having is that he good people are leaving and the people who are just there to troll, the vendors and the people who aren't reading are the ones that are left. So the ratio of the good people to the "bad" people or the people who suck the life out of the community at least, keeps shifting. For years the ratio was improving with more and more good people really participating, but that trend flipped and now it's just declining.
With the recent two month long issues with the site not working, the pain threshold for using the site went through the roof which means that the people who used to be a moderating force weren't able to do so nearly as well.
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Okay, so I'm timing this. I went to look at a thread on SW some time ago. I had a dozen ML posts to read. I clicked the link to SW and went back to ML. I did some posting, read some threads... and then realized that the link had not opened yet. So I checked the time. That was four minutes ago. So it was probably four or five minutes before I noticed that it had not opened.
So we are now on ten minutes that the thread has not opened. TEN MINUTES. And no progress.
I continued and was able to completely catch up on ML while waiting and write this full post and still ... no progress.
Another minute just ticked by. I'll keep you informed...
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@scottalanmiller said:
Okay, so I'm timing this. I went to look at a thread on SW some time ago. I had a dozen ML posts to read. I clicked the link to SW and went back to ML. I did some posting, read some threads... and then realized that the link had not opened yet. So I checked the time. That was four minutes ago. So it was probably four or five minutes before I noticed that it had not opened.
So we are now on ten minutes that the thread has not opened. TEN MINUTES. And no progress.
I continued and was able to completely catch up on ML while waiting and write this full post and still ... no progress.
Another minute just ticked by. I'll keep you informed...
I don't have these kinds of problems. SW has always been relatively snappy for me... On the East Coast US.
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Okay, so I'm timing this. I went to look at a thread on SW some time ago. I had a dozen ML posts to read. I clicked the link to SW and went back to ML. I did some posting, read some threads... and then realized that the link had not opened yet. So I checked the time. That was four minutes ago. So it was probably four or five minutes before I noticed that it had not opened.
So we are now on ten minutes that the thread has not opened. TEN MINUTES. And no progress.
I continued and was able to completely catch up on ML while waiting and write this full post and still ... no progress.
Another minute just ticked by. I'll keep you informed...
I don't have these kinds of problems. SW has always been relatively snappy for me... On the East Coast US.
I've heard of a lot of people having these problems. And it is constant for me. It will be snappy once in a while, but days at a time with five - ten minutes to open any page.
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It fully timed out and failed at fifteen minutes. Got in with a reload. I wonder if one of their servers died.
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@scottalanmiller said:
It fully timed out and failed at fifteen minutes. Got in with a reload. I wonder if one of their servers died.
I wonder why the difference?
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller said:
It fully timed out and failed at fifteen minutes. Got in with a reload. I wonder if one of their servers died.
I wonder why the difference?
I'm 50% sure that the difference is a load balancer doing round robin and sending me to a working server.
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We've heard rumours that they have been having physical servers dying a lot and that can cause this kind of problem. You get long delays with failed resolution when the load balancer has not pulled a failed one out of the rotation yet.
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@scottalanmiller said:
We've heard rumours that they have been having physical servers dying a lot and that can cause this kind of problem. You get long delays with failed resolution when the load balancer has not pulled a failed one out of the rotation yet.
We have this issue here with our load balancers.
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I am thinking how liberating it was back in October to go platform agnostic in my gadget world...and this is me when I finally made that decision after being way too patient with Microsoft:
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My executive director just told me a story of how they caught an overnight watching porn one time. The old IT guy they had was this russian guy named Boris. I know Boris. Imaging him having to explain this to my executive director is so funny i literally can't handle it. GOD.
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@wirestyle22 said:
My executive director just told me a story of how they caught an overnight watching porn one time. The old IT guy they had was this russian guy named Boris. I know Boris. Imaging him having to explain this to my executive director is so funny i literally can't handle it. GOD.
I've got some awesome porn at work stories. Well, two, anyway.
