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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller @coliver
      last edited by MattSpeller

      @coliver I want one, just not $250 for a basic computer case want one.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
        last edited by

        @MattSpeller said:

        @wirestyle22 said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @johnhooks said:

        Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

        To a business, the big thing is support.

        To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.

        This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT

        grumbling about the CDN$ intensifies

        Price: $149.99 + $100.04 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Canada

        I want you all to think of this situation like you're talking to your daughter and trying to convince her to dump her boyfriend who rides a motorcycle, wears a leather jacket and seems high all the time. Her answer will always be "...but I love him". That's my answer.

        ....but I love it

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller @MattSpeller
          last edited by

          @MattSpeller said:

          @wirestyle22 said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @johnhooks said:

          Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?

          To a business, the big thing is support.

          To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.

          This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT

          grumbling about the CDN$ intensifies

          Price: $149.99 + $100.04 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Canada

          Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh baby. I take it all back. I don't $450 before tax want one at all.

          Price: CDN$ 437.48

          http://www.amazon.ca/Silverstone-Tek-Mini-ITX-Computer-DS380B/dp/B00IAELTAI/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454693376&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=SilverStone+Technology+Premium+Mini-ITX+%2F+DTX+Small+Form+Factor+NAS

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          • gjacobseG
            gjacobse @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            If I am going to put in twelve drives, I want a server chassis.

            While it maybe over kill..

            Dual PSUs and Dual CPUs.. I mean,.. with twelve drives,.. why not?

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              If I am going to put in twelve drives, I want a server chassis.

              I just bought a Coolermaster Cosmos 2 for my home media server. It's the biggest case I've ever seen in my life and weighs almost 50 lbs by itself.

              http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Cosmos-II-RC-1200-KKN1/dp/B006P88VNE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1454693502&sr=1-1&keywords=cosmos+2

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller @gjacobse
                last edited by

                @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
                  last edited by

                  @MattSpeller said:

                  @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                  Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @wirestyle22
                    last edited by

                    @wirestyle22 said:

                    @MattSpeller said:

                    @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                    Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                    Generally, as long as moisture is controlled, cooling for networking equipment is a non-issue in a lab/home environment.

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @wirestyle22
                      last edited by

                      @wirestyle22 said:

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                      Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                      I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                      travisdh1T wirestyle22W gjacobseG 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 5
                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @MattSpeller
                        last edited by travisdh1

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        @wirestyle22 said:

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                        Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                        I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                        Or a 13U rack under your desk at home. Man, I gotta remember to check out Northeast Factory Direct, bet I could pickup one for cheap.

                        Edit: No, it's not NFD, now what is that used equipment warehouse in Cleveland?

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
                          last edited by

                          @MattSpeller said:

                          @wirestyle22 said:

                          @MattSpeller said:

                          @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                          Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                          I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                          The only place I would put it in my living room would be sort of behind my TV which the lights and stuff would distract I think. First world problems

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @travisdh1
                            last edited by

                            @travisdh1 said:

                            @MattSpeller said:

                            @wirestyle22 said:

                            @MattSpeller said:

                            @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                            Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                            I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                            Or a 13U rack under your desk at home. Man, I gotta remember to check out Northeast Factory Direct, bet I could pickup one for cheap.

                            13U is almost the perfect height for an ottoman. Just saying.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
                              last edited by

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @travisdh1 said:

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @wirestyle22 said:

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                              Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                              I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                              Or a 13U rack under your desk at home. Man, I gotta remember to check out Northeast Factory Direct, bet I could pickup one for cheap.

                              13U is almost the perfect height for an ottoman. Just saying.

                              https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                @wirestyle22 said:

                                @MattSpeller said:

                                @travisdh1 said:

                                @MattSpeller said:

                                @wirestyle22 said:

                                @MattSpeller said:

                                @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                                Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                                I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                                Or a 13U rack under your desk at home. Man, I gotta remember to check out Northeast Factory Direct, bet I could pickup one for cheap.

                                13U is almost the perfect height for an ottoman. Just saying.

                                https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack

                                I've been thinking of building one of these but my wife would kill me. At our next house I'm going to build a data closet.

                                MattSpellerM wirestyle22W scottalanmillerS 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @wirestyle22
                                  last edited by

                                  @wirestyle22 said:

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  @travisdh1 said:

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  @wirestyle22 said:

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                                  Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                                  I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                                  Or a 13U rack under your desk at home. Man, I gotta remember to check out Northeast Factory Direct, bet I could pickup one for cheap.

                                  13U is almost the perfect height for an ottoman. Just saying.

                                  https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack

                                  Sexy!

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @coliver
                                    last edited by

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @wirestyle22 said:

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @travisdh1 said:

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @wirestyle22 said:

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                                    Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                                    I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                                    Or a 13U rack under your desk at home. Man, I gotta remember to check out Northeast Factory Direct, bet I could pickup one for cheap.

                                    13U is almost the perfect height for an ottoman. Just saying.

                                    https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack

                                    I've been thinking of building one of these but my wife would kill me. At our next house I'm going to build a data closet.

                                    Score 1 for bachelor life.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @coliver
                                      last edited by

                                      @coliver said:

                                      @wirestyle22 said:

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @travisdh1 said:

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @wirestyle22 said:

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                                      Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                                      I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                                      Or a 13U rack under your desk at home. Man, I gotta remember to check out Northeast Factory Direct, bet I could pickup one for cheap.

                                      13U is almost the perfect height for an ottoman. Just saying.

                                      https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack

                                      I've been thinking of building one of these but my wife would kill me. At our next house I'm going to build a data closet.

                                      I'd rather have everything hidden but I run into complications with space available and cooling/airflow.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                        last edited by

                                        @wirestyle22 said:

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                                        Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                                        Dedicated AC unit. Not kidding, actually did that. Put in a half rack as well as a small wall mounted network rack. UPS, servers and storage went on the floor rack. Firewall, switches, patch panels on the wall mount one.

                                        Room was closed off and was windowless. @art_of_shred installed a floor standing dedicated AC unit that vented directly to the outside. Worked great.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                          last edited by

                                          @wirestyle22 said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          @travisdh1 said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          @wirestyle22 said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                                          Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                                          I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                                          Or a 13U rack under your desk at home. Man, I gotta remember to check out Northeast Factory Direct, bet I could pickup one for cheap.

                                          13U is almost the perfect height for an ottoman. Just saying.

                                          https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack

                                          i've had that too.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @wirestyle22
                                            last edited by

                                            @wirestyle22 said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @wirestyle22 said:

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @travisdh1 said:

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @wirestyle22 said:

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.

                                            Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?

                                            I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.

                                            Or a 13U rack under your desk at home. Man, I gotta remember to check out Northeast Factory Direct, bet I could pickup one for cheap.

                                            13U is almost the perfect height for an ottoman. Just saying.

                                            https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack

                                            I've been thinking of building one of these but my wife would kill me. At our next house I'm going to build a data closet.

                                            I'd rather have everything hidden but I run into complications with space available and cooling/airflow.

                                            Not too concerned about cooling and airflow. The power requirements are going to be hell. Hoping to get some solar or wind alternative sources.

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