What Are You Doing Right Now
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@gjacobse said:
So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.
So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.
My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.
Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.
Is hardware raid a necessity or something? You can achieve great results for cheap using Linux with ZFS (Software Raid). I know a lot of people have a lot of opinions on software raid but there is very little overhead with modern processors and it's enterprise level software. One of the beautiful aspects of software raid is you don't have to worry about the firmware of the raid controller you purchased when it dies. A lot of the time they stop manufacturing them which is a headache. At the same point I'm sure SAM has a reason for recommending that. I assume this is going to be a raid 10 with 4 drives.
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@wirestyle22 said:
Is hardware raid a necessity or something? You can achieve great results for cheap using Linux with ZFS (Software Raid). I know a lot of people have a lot of opinions on software raid but there is very little overhead with modern processors and it's enterprise level software.
No NAS box has hardware RAID. Not aware of a single one on the market for the past decade. It's all MD RAID (Linux software RAID) which is more enterprise, to normal standards, than ZFS, but it is ALL software, no matter what. ZFS is great on Solaris, but on Linux is not native and while it can work okay is pretty weird.
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@johnhooks said:
Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?
To a business, the big thing is support.
To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?
To a business, the big thing is support.
To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.
This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT
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@johnhooks said:
@gjacobse said:
So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.
So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.
My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.
Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.
Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?
The PE 2900 has space for just 2 drives. While that is plenty for some tasks... I just can't fit what I want into that. Plus for the age of the machine,.. It's unlikely I can use 1TB drives in it.
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@gjacobse said:
@johnhooks said:
@gjacobse said:
So picked up the old firewall I put in at my previous office. It ran on a Dell PE 2900 1U box. They retired it this month.
So now I have a driveless box here I'm wondering what to do with. I only had / have $100 in it,.. but if I use it now, I'll have to find drives.
My brother suggested a NAS - but @scottalanmiller and I have talked about this in detail, and I plan to do a build out of a 4 bay ReadyNAS.
Is my data worth that much - why yes... yes it is. Photos and such, and then I can maybe pull backups from my Dad as well.
Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?
The PE 2900 has space for just 2 drives. While that is plenty for some tasks... I just can't fit what I want into that. Plus for the age of the machine,.. It's unlikely I can use 1TB drives in it.
Yeah, that's not a little desktop chassis.
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@wirestyle22 said:
This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT
That's WAY bigger than you'd want for this. Just a little two bay unit.
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If I am going to put in twelve drives, I want a server chassis.
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@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?
To a business, the big thing is support.
To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.
This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT
grumbling about the CDN$ intensifies
Price: $149.99 + $100.04 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Canada
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@MattSpeller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?
To a business, the big thing is support.
To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.
This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT
grumbling about the CDN$ intensifies
Price: $149.99 + $100.04 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Canada
It is beautiful though.
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@coliver I want one, just not $250 for a basic computer case want one.
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@MattSpeller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?
To a business, the big thing is support.
To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.
This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT
grumbling about the CDN$ intensifies
Price: $149.99 + $100.04 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Canada
I want you all to think of this situation like you're talking to your daughter and trying to convince her to dump her boyfriend who rides a motorcycle, wears a leather jacket and seems high all the time. Her answer will always be "...but I love him". That's my answer.
....but I love it
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@MattSpeller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Out of curiosity whats the advantage to a ReadyNAS vs building your own NAS with that box?
To a business, the big thing is support.
To a consumer, the big thing is "small, cheap chassis." A ReadyNAS is offered in a very nice little desktop unit with hot swap bays. It would be great if someone was making business class little chassis like that that we could build SAM-SD Minis out of, but I have not seen one yet. HP Proliant Micro is a good start, but not ideal for that. Smaller, two bay and ARM based would be really sweet.
This is the best DIY NAS case I've seen but it's not cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IAELTAI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00IAELTAI&linkCode=as2&tag=diy-nas-20&linkId=FXJXCIGCRY5WCZUT
grumbling about the CDN$ intensifies
Price: $149.99 + $100.04 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Canada
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh baby. I take it all back. I don't $450 before tax want one at all.
Price: CDN$ 437.48
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@scottalanmiller said:
If I am going to put in twelve drives, I want a server chassis.
While it maybe over kill..
Dual PSUs and Dual CPUs.. I mean,.. with twelve drives,.. why not?
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@scottalanmiller said:
If I am going to put in twelve drives, I want a server chassis.
I just bought a Coolermaster Cosmos 2 for my home media server. It's the biggest case I've ever seen in my life and weighs almost 50 lbs by itself.
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@gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.
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@MattSpeller said:
@gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.
Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?
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@wirestyle22 said:
@MattSpeller said:
@gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.
Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?
Generally, as long as moisture is controlled, cooling for networking equipment is a non-issue in a lab/home environment.
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@wirestyle22 said:
@MattSpeller said:
@gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.
Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?
I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.
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@MattSpeller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@MattSpeller said:
@gjacobse Form factor and how quiet the chassis is are large factors. One day I'll have a rack in my home but that day will not be soon.
Oh that's a conversation we can have. If you guys were making a network closet at home how would you cool it?
I would cool it ambiently and save money on my heating bills. Nothing says "I work in IT" like a server rack in your living room.
Or a 13U rack under your desk at home. Man, I gotta remember to check out Northeast Factory Direct, bet I could pickup one for cheap.
Edit: No, it's not NFD, now what is that used equipment warehouse in Cleveland?
