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scottalanmiller

I'm surprised how often this comes up. Are there really so many people that have RAID and servers but are not aware of what to do when a drive fails? I mean, maybe no one teaches this stuff but it seems so ridiculously obvious that when the drive fails you replace it ASAP. I mean, what do they think that the RAID is for or is doing? This is an honest question, don't mean to berate the person in question as this comes up quite often. Clearly there is a gap in training somewhere because this requires zero technical knowledge. It's like "when do you replace a tire"... um, the moment that the original one blows.

http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1381551-raid-5-failure-on-logical-drive-what-to-do

BRRABill

@scottalanmiller said:

I'm surprised how often this comes up. Are there really so many people that have RAID and servers but are not aware of what to do when a drive fails? I mean, maybe no one teaches this stuff but it seems so ridiculously obvious that when the drive fails you replace it ASAP. I mean, what do they think that the RAID is for or is doing? This is an honest question, don't mean to berate the person in question as this comes up quite often. Clearly there is a gap in training somewhere because this requires zero technical knowledge. It's like "when do you replace a tire"... um, the moment that the original one blows.

http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1381551-raid-5-failure-on-logical-drive-what-to-do

My question is always: how. Perhaps it has just been my luck, but I have had multiple DELL servers fry when hotplugging. But I know it's also more dangerous to shut them down and reboot.

BACKUPS BACKUPS BACKUPS.

marcinozga

@scottalanmiller said:

I'm surprised how often this comes up. Are there really so many people that have RAID and servers but are not aware of what to do when a drive fails? I mean, maybe no one teaches this stuff but it seems so ridiculously obvious that when the drive fails you replace it ASAP. I mean, what do they think that the RAID is for or is doing? This is an honest question, don't mean to berate the person in question as this comes up quite often. Clearly there is a gap in training somewhere because this requires zero technical knowledge. It's like "when do you replace a tire"... um, the moment that the original one blows.

http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1381551-raid-5-failure-on-logical-drive-what-to-do

I think it's more than lack of training, I think it's lack of common sense. We're slowly heading towards idiocracy. "Welcome to Costco, I love you".

RojoLoco

@scottalanmiller this shows the dangerous levels of incompetence of some people that are running computer systems... If this guy worked for me, he'd be lucky not to get the unholy sh*t beaten out of him before he got fired. I think he needs some berating, because if he had zero idea what to do with a failed drive, he probably lacks the basic thinking and troubleshooting skills required to do his job.

To use your analogy, this guy got a flat tire, then wondered what to do about it.

scottalanmiller

@BRRABill said:

@scottalanmiller said:

I'm surprised how often this comes up. Are there really so many people that have RAID and servers but are not aware of what to do when a drive fails? I mean, maybe no one teaches this stuff but it seems so ridiculously obvious that when the drive fails you replace it ASAP. I mean, what do they think that the RAID is for or is doing? This is an honest question, don't mean to berate the person in question as this comes up quite often. Clearly there is a gap in training somewhere because this requires zero technical knowledge. It's like "when do you replace a tire"... um, the moment that the original one blows.

http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1381551-raid-5-failure-on-logical-drive-what-to-do

My question is always: how. Perhaps it has just been my luck, but I have had multiple DELL servers fry when hotplugging. But I know it's also more dangerous to shut them down and reboot.

BACKUPS BACKUPS BACKUPS.

You've had a server have electrical issues while hot swapping a hot swap drive? What model(s)?

BRRABill

@scottalanmiller said:

You've had a server have electrical issues while hot swapping a hot swap drive? What model(s)?

Fry could be the wrong word.

I've had twice now (in I think the 3 times I had to replace drives in my servers) where another drive in the array failed as I was replacing the original failed drive.

Which I now understand is not uncommon.

mlnews

@BRRABill said:

@scottalanmiller said:

You've had a server have electrical issues while hot swapping a hot swap drive? What model(s)?

Fry could be the wrong word.

I've had twice now (in I think the 3 times I had to replace drives in my servers) where another drive in the array failed as I was replacing the original failed drive.

Which I now understand is not uncommon.

Oh okay. that's not a problem with the hot swapping, it's a problem with the RAID level and the age or fragility of the drives. Hot swapping was still the right thing to do there, it just wasn't enough to have saved you.

gjacobse

@scottalanmiller said:

I'm surprised how often this comes up. Are there really so many people that have RAID and servers but are not aware of what to do when a drive fails? I mean, maybe no one teaches this stuff but it seems so ridiculously obvious that when the drive fails you replace it ASAP. I mean, what do they think that the RAID is for or is doing? This is an honest question, don't mean to berate the person in question as this comes up quite often. Clearly there is a gap in training somewhere because this requires zero technical knowledge. It's like "when do you replace a tire"... um, the moment that the original one blows.

http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1381551-raid-5-failure-on-logical-drive-what-to-do

I really want to respond that he answered his own question... but I'll back up and just watch...

RojoLoco

It's a real sh*t show on SW today... this guy thinks it would be ok for him to block an app from students' personal phones because of bullying.... somebody hand me my slappin' gloves!!!

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1381548-block-a-smartphone-app

BRRABill

@mlnews said:

Oh okay. that's not a problem with the hot swapping, it's a problem with the RAID level and the age or fragility of the drives. Hot swapping was still the right thing to do there, it just wasn't enough to have saved you.

Yeah I knew what to do, certainly.

Swear incessantly.
Figure out there are no replacement drives in my office, swear again.
Find a replacement drive online ASAP. Get drive shipped overnight along with additional replacement drives.
Replace new drive as soon as it arrives the next day.

marcinozga

@RojoLoco said:

It's a real sh*t show on SW today... this guy thinks it would be ok for him to block an app from students' personal phones because of bullying.... somebody hand me my slappin' gloves!!!

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1381548-block-a-smartphone-app

And this one want's to track users with their own smartphones.

dafyre

@BRRABill Wait for another drive to fail while the system is rebuilding... Swear some more... Restore from backups.

Dashrender

@marcinozga said:

@scottalanmiller said:

I'm surprised how often this comes up. Are there really so many people that have RAID and servers but are not aware of what to do when a drive fails? I mean, maybe no one teaches this stuff but it seems so ridiculously obvious that when the drive fails you replace it ASAP. I mean, what do they think that the RAID is for or is doing? This is an honest question, don't mean to berate the person in question as this comes up quite often. Clearly there is a gap in training somewhere because this requires zero technical knowledge. It's like "when do you replace a tire"... um, the moment that the original one blows.

http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1381551-raid-5-failure-on-logical-drive-what-to-do

I think it's more than lack of training, I think it's lack of common sense. We're slowly heading towards idiocracy. "Welcome to Costco, I love you".

More like Buttf**kers - that was my favorite part.. damn good movie.