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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN @Alex Sage
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      @anonymous said:

      @IT-ADMIN said:

      but the SIP trunk is related to his internet connection, so we need to ask him about his bandwidth

      10 up 10 down

      so your connection is great, but keep in mind the failover, if your internet connection go down your phone system will be down also

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      • coliverC
        coliver @Alex Sage
        last edited by coliver

        @anonymous said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        but the SIP trunk is related to his internet connection, so we need to ask him about his bandwidth

        10 up 10 down

        That is what we started with. It worked well. How reliable is this connection? Does it go down often?

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          IT-ADMIN
          last edited by

          for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

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          • ?
            A Former User @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said:

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            in my opinion since your budget is only 5K, you can use PSTN gateway as i described before and cancel your PRI line because you need only 4 simultaneous calls,

            If you're just doing that get a SIP Trunk and save even more money. For the price of the gateway you could have two SIP trunks from different providers to fail back to if need be.

            That's what I'd say. Get a SIP Trunk and be done with it. Otherwise get a PRI Card.

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            • ?
              A Former User @IT-ADMIN
              last edited by

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              in my opinion since your budget is only 5K, you can use PSTN gateway as i described before and cancel your PRI line because you need only 4 simultaneous calls,

              A Quality FXO gateway will cost as much as a PRI card.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @IT-ADMIN
                last edited by

                @IT-ADMIN said:

                for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @A Former User
                  last edited by

                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  in my opinion since your budget is only 5K, you can use PSTN gateway as i described before and cancel your PRI line because you need only 4 simultaneous calls,

                  A Quality FXO gateway will cost as much as a PRI card.

                  If I remember correctly you can also get FXO cards that will do the same thing. Still probably around the same price.

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                  • ?
                    A Former User @IT-ADMIN
                    last edited by A Former User

                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    @anonymous said:

                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    but the SIP trunk is related to his internet connection, so we need to ask him about his bandwidth

                    10 up 10 down

                    so your connection is great, but keep in mind the failover, if your internet connection go down your phone system will be down also

                    And if your PRI provider goes down you go down. we have 2,000+ simultaneous calls normally and are almost all SIP based at least on the upstream side, not all desk phones are VoIP yet. SIP doesn't stop you from having fail over.

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                      IT-ADMIN @coliver
                      last edited by

                      @coliver said:

                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                      Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

                      yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        @coliver said:

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                        Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

                        yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                        Got it... are you in an area with a single ISP?

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                        • ?
                          A Former User @IT-ADMIN
                          last edited by

                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                          You can get failover SIP connections and use two internet connections. We even failover our DIDs.

                          The cost is still cheaper than PRIs.

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                            IT-ADMIN @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said:

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                            Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

                            yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                            Got it... are you in an area with a single ISP?

                            yes you are right, we have only one ISP in the country

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @IT-ADMIN
                              last edited by

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                              Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

                              yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                              Got it... are you in an area with a single ISP?

                              yes you are right, we have only one ISP in the country

                              You're a special case then... Is that ISP also the Telcom?

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                                IT-ADMIN @A Former User
                                last edited by

                                @thecreativeone91 said:

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                                You can get failover SIP connections and use two internet connections. We even failover our DIDs.

                                The cost is still cheaper than PRIs.

                                how we can use 2 internet connection while we have only one ISP in the country,
                                do you mean having 2 different internet connection from the same ISP ??

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                                • IT-ADMINI
                                  IT-ADMIN @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                                  Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

                                  yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                                  Got it... are you in an area with a single ISP?

                                  yes you are right, we have only one ISP in the country

                                  You're a special case then... Is that ISP also the Telcom?

                                  it is everything hhhhhh
                                  it is the government

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                                    last edited by

                                    @anonymous said:

                                    I have started testing 3CX, but now I am wondering if there is something easier.

                                    I found 3CX to be unnecessarily complicated. A bit harder to use than more powerful and less constrained alternatives like Elastix and FreePBX. And needing a Windows license makes 3CX extra complicated and normally costly too.

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @IT-ADMIN
                                      last edited by

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                                      You can get failover SIP connections and use two internet connections. We even failover our DIDs.

                                      The cost is still cheaper than PRIs.

                                      how we can use 2 internet connection while we have only one ISP in the country,
                                      do you mean having 2 different internet connection from the same ISP ??

                                      Maybe for you, but this is not the case for the majority.

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                                        Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        I found 3CX to be unnecessarily complicated. A bit harder to use than more powerful and less constrained alternatives like Elastix and FreePBX. And needing a Windows license makes 3CX extra complicated and normally costly too.

                                        That might be true if you already have a linux admin on staff.....

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                                          last edited by

                                          @anonymous said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          I found 3CX to be unnecessarily complicated. A bit harder to use than more powerful and less constrained alternatives like Elastix and FreePBX. And needing a Windows license makes 3CX extra complicated and normally costly too.

                                          That might be true if you already have a linux admin on staff.....

                                          Why would you need a Linux admin for an appliance? Obviously better to have one, but you don't normally use one as it is an appliance, not an exposed Linux system. You don't talk about needing a Linux admin to operate a NAS, right?

                                          And the reverse is true too. 3CX requires a Windows admin. But unlike Elastix or FreePBX, which are appliances, 3CX is an app so it ALWAYS requires a Windows admin (and people who understand the licensing.)

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                                          • IT-ADMINI
                                            IT-ADMIN @A Former User
                                            last edited by

                                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                                            You can get failover SIP connections and use two internet connections. We even failover our DIDs.

                                            The cost is still cheaper than PRIs.

                                            how we can use 2 internet connection while we have only one ISP in the country,
                                            do you mean having 2 different internet connection from the same ISP ??

                                            Maybe for you, but this is not the case for the majority.

                                            yep, you are right
                                            let us do a comparison in terms of cost: which is better having 2 internet connection (to use SIP trunk) or having 4 POTS line (+PSTN gateway) ??

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