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    • coliverC
      coliver @IT-ADMIN
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      @IT-ADMIN said:

      @coliver said:

      @IT-ADMIN said:

      in my opinion since your budget is only 5K, you can use PSTN gateway as i described before and cancel your PRI line because you need only 4 simultaneous calls,

      If you're just doing that get a SIP Trunk and save even more money. For the price of the gateway you could have two SIP trunks from different providers to fail back to if need be.

      but the SIP trunk is related to his internet connection, so we need to ask him about his bandwidth

      For 4 simultaneous calls even ADSL would be viable (depending on his jitter rate).

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        Alex Sage @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        but the SIP trunk is related to his internet connection, so we need to ask him about his bandwidth

        10 up 10 down

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        • coliverC
          coliver @Alex Sage
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          @anonymous said:

          @thecreativeone91 said:

          How many phones do you have? $5,000 is going to be tight.

          Might have to wait until 2016 until we get a new budget.

          50 Phones 😞

          Yep... that is going to be all of your budget right there.... can you start the project now?

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            IT-ADMIN @Alex Sage
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            @anonymous said:

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            but the SIP trunk is related to his internet connection, so we need to ask him about his bandwidth

            10 up 10 down

            so your connection is great, but keep in mind the failover, if your internet connection go down your phone system will be down also

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            • coliverC
              coliver @Alex Sage
              last edited by coliver

              @anonymous said:

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              but the SIP trunk is related to his internet connection, so we need to ask him about his bandwidth

              10 up 10 down

              That is what we started with. It worked well. How reliable is this connection? Does it go down often?

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                IT-ADMIN
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                for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

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                • ?
                  A Former User @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  in my opinion since your budget is only 5K, you can use PSTN gateway as i described before and cancel your PRI line because you need only 4 simultaneous calls,

                  If you're just doing that get a SIP Trunk and save even more money. For the price of the gateway you could have two SIP trunks from different providers to fail back to if need be.

                  That's what I'd say. Get a SIP Trunk and be done with it. Otherwise get a PRI Card.

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                    A Former User @IT-ADMIN
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                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    in my opinion since your budget is only 5K, you can use PSTN gateway as i described before and cancel your PRI line because you need only 4 simultaneous calls,

                    A Quality FXO gateway will cost as much as a PRI card.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @IT-ADMIN
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                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                      Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @A Former User
                        last edited by

                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        in my opinion since your budget is only 5K, you can use PSTN gateway as i described before and cancel your PRI line because you need only 4 simultaneous calls,

                        A Quality FXO gateway will cost as much as a PRI card.

                        If I remember correctly you can also get FXO cards that will do the same thing. Still probably around the same price.

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                          A Former User @IT-ADMIN
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                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          @anonymous said:

                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          but the SIP trunk is related to his internet connection, so we need to ask him about his bandwidth

                          10 up 10 down

                          so your connection is great, but keep in mind the failover, if your internet connection go down your phone system will be down also

                          And if your PRI provider goes down you go down. we have 2,000+ simultaneous calls normally and are almost all SIP based at least on the upstream side, not all desk phones are VoIP yet. SIP doesn't stop you from having fail over.

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                            IT-ADMIN @coliver
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                            @coliver said:

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                            Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

                            yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @IT-ADMIN
                              last edited by

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                              Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

                              yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                              Got it... are you in an area with a single ISP?

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                                A Former User @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                                You can get failover SIP connections and use two internet connections. We even failover our DIDs.

                                The cost is still cheaper than PRIs.

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                                  IT-ADMIN @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                                  Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

                                  yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                                  Got it... are you in an area with a single ISP?

                                  yes you are right, we have only one ISP in the country

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @IT-ADMIN
                                    last edited by

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                                    Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

                                    yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                                    Got it... are you in an area with a single ISP?

                                    yes you are right, we have only one ISP in the country

                                    You're a special case then... Is that ISP also the Telcom?

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                                      IT-ADMIN @A Former User
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                                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                                      You can get failover SIP connections and use two internet connections. We even failover our DIDs.

                                      The cost is still cheaper than PRIs.

                                      how we can use 2 internet connection while we have only one ISP in the country,
                                      do you mean having 2 different internet connection from the same ISP ??

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                                        IT-ADMIN @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                                        Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

                                        yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                                        Got it... are you in an area with a single ISP?

                                        yes you are right, we have only one ISP in the country

                                        You're a special case then... Is that ISP also the Telcom?

                                        it is everything hhhhhh
                                        it is the government

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                                          @anonymous said:

                                          I have started testing 3CX, but now I am wondering if there is something easier.

                                          I found 3CX to be unnecessarily complicated. A bit harder to use than more powerful and less constrained alternatives like Elastix and FreePBX. And needing a Windows license makes 3CX extra complicated and normally costly too.

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                                          • ?
                                            A Former User @IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                                            You can get failover SIP connections and use two internet connections. We even failover our DIDs.

                                            The cost is still cheaper than PRIs.

                                            how we can use 2 internet connection while we have only one ISP in the country,
                                            do you mean having 2 different internet connection from the same ISP ??

                                            Maybe for you, but this is not the case for the majority.

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