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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      That sounds like no fun at all.

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      • nadnerBN
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        Manually upgrading my Windows 7 machine to 10. I don't want to wait for the Windows update method.

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        • JoyJ
          Joy
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          Drinking coffee now 🙂

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          • nadnerBN
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            @nadnerB said:

            Manually upgrading my Windows 7 machine to 10. I don't want to wait for the Windows update method.

            aaaannnnndddd it's done 🙂
            No issues so far.

            Although it did take a while for the start menu to become usable. I hope that isn't a recurring issue.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @nadnerB
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              @nadnerB I had that problem too. After my first boot, it took about 5 minutes before I could even search the start menu. That was aggravating.

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              • JoyJ
                Joy
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                Learning something interesting..

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said:

                  @nadnerB I had that problem too. After my first boot, it took about 5 minutes before I could even search the start menu. That was aggravating.

                  Indexing?

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @coliver
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                    @coliver Yea, probably. All my apps seem to work, so that's a big plus. Even my old Vanilla WoW install seems to play better than it did before.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Worked on Chef and NVM stuff until the wee hours of the morning. So just getting up and getting started now.

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                      • nadnerBN
                        nadnerB @coliver
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                        @coliver said:

                        @dafyre said:

                        @nadnerB I had that problem too. After my first boot, it took about 5 minutes before I could even search the start menu. That was aggravating.

                        Indexing?

                        Probably. We shall see.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre
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                          Trying to decide whether to continue to get RemoteApps to work from VDI or give that up and just say it's full-desktop VDI only...

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                          • scottalanmillerS
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                            What's driving the need for RemoteApps with VDI rather than just normal RemoteApps? Bizarre technical requirement of the application?

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                              We don't use VDI at all here. It's a cost and management nightmare no matter how much people think it's better. We only use Terminal Servers.

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                              • dafyreD
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                                Nothing so bizzare, aside from a request from the higher ups. It looks like we will have to have a separate RDS Collection (which means 2 more servers with beefy graphics cards...)

                                I am recommending that we switch to Session Based Computing (RDP into a beefy server). Some of the Apps require a decent graphics card for heavy lifting (Adobe Premiere, AutoCad, and a few others).

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                                  dafyre @A Former User
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                                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                                  We don't use VDI at all here. It's a cost and management nightmare no matter how much people think it's better. We only use Terminal Servers.

                                  We already use VDI here for Labs and such so students can access the apps for their classes if they don't have a (good enough) computer to use. Right now, VMware is what we use, but our CIO wants us to see if we can move away from that due to the price.

                                  I am pushing for us to switch up and just use RDSH servers... We already have a few RemoteApps available and folks are using them.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                    @thecreativeone91 said:

                                    We don't use VDI at all here. It's a cost and management nightmare no matter how much people think it's better. We only use Terminal Servers.

                                    Great use cases for both, but for average organizations, avoiding VDI is the best answer most of the time.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                      @dafyre said:

                                      Nothing so bizzare, aside from a request from the higher ups. It looks like we will have to have a separate RDS Collection (which means 2 more servers with beefy graphics cards...)

                                      So no technical reasons, just someone who heard a term and repeated it? I wonder how often it wouldn't be better to provide what they need and not what they want and just be coy about it. "Is this what you were looking for?" Since they don't likely know what the words mean and can't tell which is which by looking at it, they might never know that you fixed their issues for them. 🙂

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                        @dafyre said:

                                        I am recommending that we switch to Session Based Computing (RDP into a beefy server). Some of the Apps require a decent graphics card for heavy lifting (Adobe Premiere, AutoCad, and a few others).

                                        Some of those are good VDI candidates.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                          @dafyre said:

                                          We already use VDI here for Labs and such so students can access the apps for their classes if they don't have a (good enough) computer to use. Right now, VMware is what we use, but our CIO wants us to see if we can move away from that due to the price.

                                          I'm pushing Scale to expose Spice to make VDI on Scale easy to do.

                                          Have you looked at KVM based or XenServer solutions? Both free. HyperV, of course, free too.

                                          Really, no reason to be on VMware. They do offer some nice stuff, but there is plenty of excellent competition.

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            I wonder how often it wouldn't be better to provide what they need and not what they want and just be coy about it. "Is this what you were looking for?" Since they don't likely know what the words mean and can't tell which is which by looking at it, they might never know that you fixed their issues for them. 🙂

                                            Fortunately, it was asked, "Can we do this?" and not "Here, do it this way". Since we already had the VDI environment setup and in testing, I figured I'd poke around and see if it could be done. Since it doesn't work the way I was thinking, I am offering what they need, now... Still planning how to get the best of both worlds.

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @dafyre said:

                                            I am recommending that we switch to Session Based Computing (RDP into a beefy server). Some of the Apps require a decent graphics card for heavy lifting (Adobe Premiere, AutoCad, and a few others).

                                            Some of those are good VDI candidates.

                                            Yeha, they are, and they work decently in our VDI setup. I think they would work even better as a RemoteApp or from a straight up RDP session. That is what I am in the middle of testing now. 8-) (Note: Premiere CS 6 runs good in Server 2012 over an RDP session on my server).

                                            If we could come up with a reason to switch off of VMware, I'm sure we would. This is a state school, so I'm not sure if VMware is mandated or not, but we have at least 10 racks full of VMware servers and UPSes, lol. Switching would be quite painful. If it were my shop, I'd be either pushing for Scale clusters or give XenServer a shot.

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