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    CloudatCost Doesn't Fully Support CentOS SELinux

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      I've noticed FirewallD turned off by default too.

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      • ?
        A Former User @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        I've noticed FirewallD turned off by default too.

        Same.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by scottalanmiller

          Looking at SELinux on our machines, it seems to be on everywhere. I think maybe that engineer was just making things up?

              cc-lnx-jump
              SELinux status:                 enabled
              SELinuxfs mount:                /sys/fs/selinux
              SELinux root directory:         /etc/selinux
              Loaded policy name:             targeted
              Current mode:                   enforcing
              Mode from config file:          enforcing
              Policy MLS status:              enabled
              Policy deny_unknown status:     allowed
              Max kernel policy version:      28
          
              cc-lnx-dev1
              SELinux status:                 enabled
              SELinuxfs mount:                /sys/fs/selinux
              SELinux root directory:         /etc/selinux
              Loaded policy name:             targeted
              Current mode:                   enforcing
              Mode from config file:          enforcing
              Policy MLS status:              enabled
              Policy deny_unknown status:     allowed
              Max kernel policy version:      28
          
              cc-lnx-rh7lab
              SELinux status:                 enabled
              SELinuxfs mount:                /sys/fs/selinux
              SELinux root directory:         /etc/selinux
              Loaded policy name:             targeted
              Current mode:                   enforcing
              Mode from config file:          enforcing
              Policy MLS status:              enabled
              Policy deny_unknown status:     allowed
              Max kernel policy version:      28
               
              cc-lnx-rh6lab
              SELinux status:                 enabled
              SELinuxfs mount:                /selinux
              Current mode:                   enforcing
              Mode from config file:          enforcing
              Policy version:                 24
              Policy from config file:        targeted
          
              cc-lnx-dblab1
              SELinux status:                 enabled
              SELinuxfs mount:                /sys/fs/selinux
              SELinux root directory:         /etc/selinux
              Loaded policy name:             targeted
              Current mode:                   enforcing
              Mode from config file:          enforcing
              Policy MLS status:              enabled
              Policy deny_unknown status:     allowed
              Max kernel policy version:      28
          
              cc-lnx-dblab2
              SELinux status:                 enabled
              SELinuxfs mount:                /sys/fs/selinux
              SELinux root directory:         /etc/selinux
              Loaded policy name:             targeted
              Current mode:                   enforcing
              Mode from config file:          enforcing
              Policy MLS status:              enabled
              Policy deny_unknown status:     allowed
              Max kernel policy version:      28
          
              cc-lnx-dblab3
              SELinux status:                 enabled
              SELinuxfs mount:                /sys/fs/selinux
              SELinux root directory:         /etc/selinux
              Loaded policy name:             targeted
              Current mode:                   enforcing
              Mode from config file:          enforcing
              Policy MLS status:              enabled
              Policy deny_unknown status:     allowed
              Max kernel policy version:      28
          
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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller
            last edited by

            For we who are linux noobs, can you give maybe a short TL;DR of the problem?

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              A Former User @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              Looking at SELinux on our machines, it seems to be on everywhere. I think maybe that engineer was just making things up?

                  cc-lnx-jump
                  SELinux status:                 enabled
                  SELinuxfs mount:                /sys/fs/selinux
                  SELinux root directory:         /etc/selinux
                  Loaded policy name:             targeted
                  Current mode:                   enforcing
                  Mode from config file:          enforcing
                  Policy MLS status:              enabled
                  Policy deny_unknown status:     allowed
                  Max kernel policy version:      28
              
                  cc-lnx-dev1
                  SELinux status:                 enabled
                  SELinuxfs mount:                /sys/fs/selinux
                  SELinux root directory:         /etc/selinux
                  Loaded policy name:             targeted
                  Current mode:                   enforcing
                  Mode from config file:          enforcing
                  Policy MLS status:              enabled
                  Policy deny_unknown status:     allowed
                  Max kernel policy version:      28
              
                  cc-lnx-rh7lab
                  SELinux status:                 enabled
                  SELinuxfs mount:                /sys/fs/selinux
                  SELinux root directory:         /etc/selinux
                  Loaded policy name:             targeted
                  Current mode:                   enforcing
                  Mode from config file:          enforcing
                  Policy MLS status:              enabled
                  Policy deny_unknown status:     allowed
                  Max kernel policy version:      28
                   
                  cc-lnx-rh6lab
                  SELinux status:                 enabled
                  SELinuxfs mount:                /selinux
                  Current mode:                   enforcing
                  Mode from config file:          enforcing
                  Policy version:                 24
                  Policy from config file:        targeted
              
                  cc-lnx-dblab1
                  SELinux status:                 enabled
                  SELinuxfs mount:                /sys/fs/selinux
                  SELinux root directory:         /etc/selinux
                  Loaded policy name:             targeted
                  Current mode:                   enforcing
                  Mode from config file:          enforcing
                  Policy MLS status:              enabled
                  Policy deny_unknown status:     allowed
                  Max kernel policy version:      28
              
                  cc-lnx-dblab2
                  SELinux status:                 enabled
                  SELinuxfs mount:                /sys/fs/selinux
                  SELinux root directory:         /etc/selinux
                  Loaded policy name:             targeted
                  Current mode:                   enforcing
                  Mode from config file:          enforcing
                  Policy MLS status:              enabled
                  Policy deny_unknown status:     allowed
                  Max kernel policy version:      28
              
                  cc-lnx-dblab3
                  SELinux status:                 enabled
                  SELinuxfs mount:                /sys/fs/selinux
                  SELinux root directory:         /etc/selinux
                  Loaded policy name:             targeted
                  Current mode:                   enforcing
                  Mode from config file:          enforcing
                  Policy MLS status:              enabled
                  Policy deny_unknown status:     allowed
                  Max kernel policy version:      28
              

              Maybe it's possible. It's not even the same guy that was responding to the case before.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                last edited by

                @MattSpeller said:

                For we who are linux noobs, can you give maybe a short TL;DR of the problem?

                His system couldn't reboot. They claimed that the reason was that a major security feature had to be disabled. SELinux is a level of security that Windows doesn't really have. It's policy security.

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                • gcamachoG
                  gcamacho
                  last edited by

                  I am a Co-Founder of CloudAtCost.
                  This might be misread and I think the support person was trying to say that they don't support the configuration of SELinux and that they are responsible for the operation of the server from a hardware level and any changes you perform in your guest OS us up to the you to maintain.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @gcamacho
                    last edited by

                    @gcamacho said:

                    I am a Co-Founder of CloudAtCost.
                    This might be misread and I think the support person was trying to say that they don't support the configuration of SELinux and that they are responsible for the operation of the server from a hardware level and any changes you perform in your guest OS us up to the you to maintain.

                    That would make sense, obviously if using SELinux and you disable your own server, that's your problem. I'll find a link to the thread. It was @thecreativeone91 that had the direct contact with the support person.

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                    • ?
                      A Former User
                      last edited by

                      Yeah. I guess it's more of a We don't support this configuration but this is what I (but he said we) recommend in order to not have boot issues.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @A Former User
                        last edited by

                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                        Yeah. I guess it's more of a We don't support this configuration but this is what I (but he said we) recommend in order to not have boot issues.

                        I've been on SELinux for a long time, have never seen a boot issue from it. Was anything changed to cause this? Did you ever come up with the underlying problem?

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                          A Former User @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @thecreativeone91 said:

                          Yeah. I guess it's more of a We don't support this configuration but this is what I (but he said we) recommend in order to not have boot issues.

                          I've been on SELinux for a long time, have never seen a boot issue from it. Was anything changed to cause this? Did you ever come up with the underlying problem?

                          Nope. I was just told I would have to re-image it.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @A Former User
                            last edited by

                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                            Yeah. I guess it's more of a We don't support this configuration but this is what I (but he said we) recommend in order to not have boot issues.

                            I've been on SELinux for a long time, have never seen a boot issue from it. Was anything changed to cause this? Did you ever come up with the underlying problem?

                            Nope. I was just told I would have to re-image it.

                            Oh, that really sucks. Do you have any idea what occurred prior to having it fail that could have lead to the issue? Leaving it with "oh, it just didn't work" sucks because sure, it might be your fault, but it could easily be theirs too. No way to know what happened. No way to go back to the last image and see what the state ways.

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                              A Former User @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              Yeah. I guess it's more of a We don't support this configuration but this is what I (but he said we) recommend in order to not have boot issues.

                              I've been on SELinux for a long time, have never seen a boot issue from it. Was anything changed to cause this? Did you ever come up with the underlying problem?

                              Nope. I was just told I would have to re-image it.

                              Oh, that really sucks. Do you have any idea what occurred prior to having it fail that could have lead to the issue? Leaving it with "oh, it just didn't work" sucks because sure, it might be your fault, but it could easily be theirs too. No way to know what happened. No way to go back to the last image and see what the state ways.

                              Yeah I have no idea. Last thing I did was upload some Concrete 5 files via SCP which kept failing. Rebooted because of the problems and it came up to this.

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                              • ?
                                A Former User
                                last edited by

                                Snap shots would be really nice.

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by

                                  They sent this update

                                  To further clarify as I believe the meaning may have been lost in my phrasing (I apologize), the error you're receiving on boot indicates that SELinux was for some reason disable improperly (ie. not with the config files -- If the kernel looks for SELinux but it is gone, it will cause kernel or init halts, or even full-blown kernel panics.

                                  Not sure how it would get disabled or changed without using the config files?

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