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    • Minion QueenM
      Minion Queen
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      Tablet or Chromebooks are really your only options. You could go with a Dell Venue they come with Standard Windows 8 on them (not RT) so you could put a remote access client such as LMI etc. on them. Would also give you the ability to install office on them and PDF reader etc. They are not the greatest tablets on the market but at $199 what can you expect.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        iPads will definitely work best, but the cost is very high. You can get cheap Androids.

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        • Minion QueenM
          Minion Queen
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          The other nice thing about being windows is it is something people will know. Chromebooks are also easy to use. However I am not sure how the remote management etc. is on these.

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          • gjacobseG
            gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller
            That is my concern - iPads are expensive.. And have a tendency to grow legs and vanish. If I went with them, I'd want to establish a lock down..
            Another bad thing about iPads is the setup requirements and access to iTunes and the APP store.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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              @g.jacobse said:

              @scottalanmiller
              That is my concern - iPads are expensive.. And have a tendency to grow legs and vanish. If I went with them, I'd want to establish a lock down..
              Another bad thing about iPads is the setup requirements and access to iTunes and the APP store.

              If your board members are thieves.... do you care?

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                I would think an iPad with MDM software would be cake to lock down.

                As for loss or theft, is that really your concern? Where will these devices be stored? And since we're talking about loss and theft, will you have to ensure they are all charged as well? That's one thing they don't have to worry about with their stack of paper.

                I'm being mostly facetious, but not entirely. I have a doc or two who refuse to be responsible for charging their own gear, well at least they were until they started buying devices that didn't have changeable batteries, but now i have to keep whole additional laptops ready for them.

                Back on topic - Why is the company worried about keeping the device locked down? I'm willing to bet that even the luddites in your group will probably find them more useful if they are allowed to use them more than for just reading these forms.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  As for loss or theft, is that really your concern?

                  That's my thought. These are the "big bosses." As close as you get to owners. If they are stealing things, intentionally or because they are forgetful kleptos, I wouldn't choose to "own" that problem. It's their domain, let them do as they choose. If they drive the company into debt, who cares?

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    As for loss or theft, is that really your concern?

                    That's my thought. These are the "big bosses." As close as you get to owners. If they are stealing things, intentionally or because they are forgetful kleptos, I wouldn't choose to "own" that problem. It's their domain, let them do as they choose. If they drive the company into debt, who cares?

                    Well, other than you don't want them bankrupting the company because you'd like to keep your job. 🙂

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      Well, other than you don't want them bankrupting the company because you'd like to keep your job. 🙂

                      If they are going to do that, they are going to do that anyway.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        Well, other than you don't want them bankrupting the company because you'd like to keep your job. 🙂

                        If they are going to do that, they are going to do that anyway.

                        True, and I'm not saying he needs to worry about the loss/theft of devices of the BOD, but just the same I'm sure he does care if they drive the company into debt. 😉

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                        • gjacobseG
                          gjacobse
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @g.jacobse said:

                          @scottalanmiller
                          That is my concern - iPads are expensive.. And have a tendency to grow legs and vanish. If I went with them, I'd want to establish a lock down..
                          Another bad thing about iPads is the setup requirements and access to iTunes and the APP store.

                          If your board members are thieves.... do you care?

                          I don't believe the Board to be thieves - Just the people that might encounter the Board Members..

                          @Dashrender said:

                          I would think an iPad with MDM software would be cake to lock down.

                          As for loss or theft, is that really your concern? Where will these devices be stored? And since we're talking about loss and theft, will you have to ensure they are all charged as well? That's one thing they don't have to worry about with their stack of paper.

                          Mostlikely - the Board Member would keep it with them during the months / years. We would 'push the new board packets to them - as long as they have Internet access (not cellular).

                          @Dashrender said:

                          Back on topic - Why is the company worried about keeping the device locked down? I'm willing to bet that even the luddites in your group will probably find them more useful if they are allowed to use them more than for just reading these forms.

                          We are a Non Profit - Don't want to start paying for Games like Candy Crush Soda Saga.. and all the In App Purchases.

                          @Dashrender @ScottAlanMiller
                          I don't think it to much about 'loss' this happen. Dropped, forgotten are also issues.. Life happens.. and at the most inopportune time.

                          Loss isn't a issue I'm truely worried about at this junction. It's the easy of operation, sending / or access the packet that is the main issue.

                          I know one option is to put the document on our SharePoint site,.. Each member has their own email address - they do not want the Board member to have an agency email address.

                          And with iPads - I'd have to set up each one, and such forth with email and a CC - time I don't really have to 'waste' on setup.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @gjacobse
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                            @g.jacobse said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @g.jacobse said:

                            @scottalanmiller
                            That is my concern - iPads are expensive.. And have a tendency to grow legs and vanish. If I went with them, I'd want to establish a lock down..
                            Another bad thing about iPads is the setup requirements and access to iTunes and the APP store.

                            If your board members are thieves.... do you care?

                            I don't believe the Board to be thieves - Just the people that might encounter the Board Members..

                            @Dashrender said:

                            I would think an iPad with MDM software would be cake to lock down.

                            As for loss or theft, is that really your concern? Where will these devices be stored? And since we're talking about loss and theft, will you have to ensure they are all charged as well? That's one thing they don't have to worry about with their stack of paper.

                            Mostlikely - the Board Member would keep it with them during the months / years. We would 'push the new board packets to them - as long as they have Internet access (not cellular).

                            @Dashrender said:

                            Back on topic - Why is the company worried about keeping the device locked down? I'm willing to bet that even the luddites in your group will probably find them more useful if they are allowed to use them more than for just reading these forms.

                            We are a Non Profit - Don't want to start paying for Games like Candy Crush Soda Saga.. and all the In App Purchases.

                            @Dashrender @ScottAlanMiller
                            I don't think it to much about 'loss' this happen. Dropped, forgotten are also issues.. Life happens.. and at the most inopportune time.

                            Loss isn't a issue I'm truely worried about at this junction. It's the easy of operation, sending / or access the packet that is the main issue.

                            I know one option is to put the document on our SharePoint site,.. Each member has their own email address - they do not want the Board member to have an agency email address.

                            And with iPads - I'd have to set up each one, and such forth with email and a CC - time I don't really have to 'waste' on setup.

                            I can understand that perhaps you don't desire to do to this work, but supporting the board is really no different than supporting the rest of your users. Without them and their money, your company would not exist.

                            And who is this 'they' that does not want the board to have an agency email address? If the board wanted it, they should be given it, but that's another matter.

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                            • gjacobseG
                              gjacobse @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender
                              ""And who is this 'they' that does not want the board to have an agency email address? If the board wanted it, they should be given it, but that's another matter.""

                              That was just what I was told....

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                                Carnival Boy @gjacobse
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                                @g.jacobse said:

                                And with iPads - I'd have to set up each one, and such forth with email and a CC - time I don't really have to 'waste' on setup.

                                I create a separate Apple ID for each user, setup the iPads using that Apple ID, and use Meraki MDM to manage them (it's free). I don't specify a credit card, but users are free to add their own if they wish. One of the benefits of Apple devices is that people can install their own apps like Candy Crush without worrying about viruses or performance issues.

                                It really doesn't take much time to setup. You could probably do ten in an hour.

                                @g.jacobse said:
                                We are a Non Profit - Don't want to start paying for Games like Candy Crush Soda Saga.

                                Encouraging them to install and play games is actually a great way of training them to use the device, and also to look after it. And as I mentioned, you don't have to specify a credit card when setting up the device.

                                In the long run, I reckon you will end up spending a lot less time and hassle supporting iPads than any Windows or Android crap.

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                                • gjacobseG
                                  gjacobse
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                                  Okay - iPads..

                                  Where do you suggest I order 25 at once? Do I have to contact the Apple store... or should I let the other 'person' deal with that. These are part of the Board arena.. and the PR (Public Relations ) person..

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Yes, work directly with Apple. Get the free engraving to put each of the board member's names on them so that they are super easy to identify forever. If a board member retires, let them keep it.

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                                    • Reid CooperR
                                      Reid Cooper
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                                      A big benefit of doing everything through Apple is the ease of people dealing with the Apple Store for things quickly and easily, even when you are not there to support them.

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                                      • Reid CooperR
                                        Reid Cooper
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                                        Plus friends and family can easily assist them, too.

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                                        • gjacobseG
                                          gjacobse
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                                          iPad Air

                                          • 16GB
                                          • 5GB iCloud (free / standard)
                                          • Engraved
                                          • Apple Care
                                          • No additional accessories (Case highly recommended!)

                                          Via Web
                                          iPad

                                          • $399 each
                                          • x 25 units
                                          • = $9,975.00

                                          AppleCare

                                          • $99 each
                                          • x 25 units
                                          • = $2475.00

                                          Estimated total:

                                          • $12,450.00

                                          Now - will contact the Apple Business Office to see.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                                            @g.jacobse iPad Air is one generation old. Might not be what you want. Be sure to consider the iPad Air 2, the current model, but also the Retina model (two gen old.) iPads last a really long time. We still use an original iPad and two iPad 2s and an iPad Mini (same gen as the iPad 2) and they all work great. No need to go current to get good usage. But current ones are smaller and lighter and just "cooler" so they have that going for them.

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