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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
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      @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

      https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/02/breached-water-plant-employees-used-the-same-teamviewer-password-and-no-firewall/

      Further, all computers shared the same password for remote access and appeared to be connected directly to the Internet without any type of firewall protection installed

      While this is possible - this seems extremely unlikely. No edge firewall/router/NAT device? Again possible, likely - seems not. Only exception to this I can think of is if each of these computers were on their own internet connection, not not a shared network for the facility.

      Now - that said, it's completely likely that the Windows 7 machines didn't have firewalls.

      Windows 7 has a firewall, and on by default.

      Just because it was not some third party thing, does not mean no firewall. I hate news reporting on technical details.

      I couldn't remember if Win 7 had one by default...

      How? I don't know of any OS in the past 20 years that doesn't by default. Even XP did.

      I was thinking the same thing....

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @Obsolesce
        last edited by Dashrender

        @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

        https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/02/breached-water-plant-employees-used-the-same-teamviewer-password-and-no-firewall/

        Further, all computers shared the same password for remote access and appeared to be connected directly to the Internet without any type of firewall protection installed

        While this is possible - this seems extremely unlikely. No edge firewall/router/NAT device? Again possible, likely - seems not. Only exception to this I can think of is if each of these computers were on their own internet connection, not not a shared network for the facility.

        Now - that said, it's completely likely that the Windows 7 machines didn't have firewalls.

        Windows 7 has a firewall, and on by default.

        Just because it was not some third party thing, does not mean no firewall. I hate news reporting on technical details.

        I couldn't remember if Win 7 had one by default...

        How? I don't know of any OS in the past 20 years that doesn't by default. Even XP did.

        no, XP didn't - not until SP3 (might have been SP2)

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

          https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/02/breached-water-plant-employees-used-the-same-teamviewer-password-and-no-firewall/

          Further, all computers shared the same password for remote access and appeared to be connected directly to the Internet without any type of firewall protection installed

          While this is possible - this seems extremely unlikely. No edge firewall/router/NAT device? Again possible, likely - seems not. Only exception to this I can think of is if each of these computers were on their own internet connection, not not a shared network for the facility.

          Now - that said, it's completely likely that the Windows 7 machines didn't have firewalls.

          Windows 7 has a firewall, and on by default.

          Just because it was not some third party thing, does not mean no firewall. I hate news reporting on technical details.

          I couldn't remember if Win 7 had one by default...

          How? I don't know of any OS in the past 20 years that doesn't by default. Even XP did.

          no, XP didn't - not until SP3 (might have been SP2)

          ......

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

            https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/02/breached-water-plant-employees-used-the-same-teamviewer-password-and-no-firewall/

            Further, all computers shared the same password for remote access and appeared to be connected directly to the Internet without any type of firewall protection installed

            While this is possible - this seems extremely unlikely. No edge firewall/router/NAT device? Again possible, likely - seems not. Only exception to this I can think of is if each of these computers were on their own internet connection, not not a shared network for the facility.

            Now - that said, it's completely likely that the Windows 7 machines didn't have firewalls.

            Windows 7 has a firewall, and on by default.

            Just because it was not some third party thing, does not mean no firewall. I hate news reporting on technical details.

            I couldn't remember if Win 7 had one by default...

            How? I don't know of any OS in the past 20 years that doesn't by default. Even XP did.

            no, XP didn't - not until SP3 (might have been SP2)

            I didn't realize you were still so incredibly used to vanilla XP that you aren't sure whether or not anything since then has firewall on by default.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
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              @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

              https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/02/breached-water-plant-employees-used-the-same-teamviewer-password-and-no-firewall/

              Further, all computers shared the same password for remote access and appeared to be connected directly to the Internet without any type of firewall protection installed

              While this is possible - this seems extremely unlikely. No edge firewall/router/NAT device? Again possible, likely - seems not. Only exception to this I can think of is if each of these computers were on their own internet connection, not not a shared network for the facility.

              Now - that said, it's completely likely that the Windows 7 machines didn't have firewalls.

              Windows 7 has a firewall, and on by default.

              Just because it was not some third party thing, does not mean no firewall. I hate news reporting on technical details.

              I couldn't remember if Win 7 had one by default...

              How? I don't know of any OS in the past 20 years that doesn't by default. Even XP did.

              no, XP didn't - not until SP3 (might have been SP2)

              I didn't realize you were still so incredibly used to vanilla XP that you aren't sure whether or not anything since then has firewall on by default.

              My firewall has been burning strong since at least 2000 when I piped raw gasoline into a moat around my house and lit it aflame. But damn does it cost a lot with these rising gas prices. . .

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              • dbeatoD
                dbeato @Obsolesce
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                @Obsolesce Why is it that we need to talk like we are know it all? it is so pedantic.

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @dbeato
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                  @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @Obsolesce Why is it that we need to talk like we are know it all? it is so pedantic.

                  That isn't knowing more than anyone whose been familiar with IT the last decade+. I cant ever remember a time where checking the firewall wasn't part of the basic troubleshooting steps. It was just surprising that he pretended to have basis for the thought based on a blip like 20 years ago.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @Obsolesce Why is it that we need to talk like we are know it all? it is so pedantic.

                    That isn't knowing more than anyone whose been familiar with IT the last decade+. I cant ever remember a time where checking the firewall wasn't part of the basic troubleshooting steps. It was just surprising that he pretended to have basis for the thought based on a blip like 20 years ago.

                    Frankly - I completely forgot that Windows 7 had one, just spaced it - yup, I'm human...

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                    • mlnewsM
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                      President Biden cancels funding for Trump border wall

                      US President Joe Biden has rescinded the national emergency order used to fund Donald Trump's border wall.
                      In a letter to Congress on Thursday, Mr Biden wrote that the order was "unwarranted" and said that no further tax dollars will be spent on the wall. Mr Trump declared a state of emergency over the southern border in 2019, which allowed him to bypass Congress and use military funds for its construction. When Mr Trump left office, about $25bn (£18bn) had been spent on the project. The announcement from President Biden is the latest in a series of executive orders that have rolled back key parts of the former president's agenda. Last week, Mr Biden signed orders seeking to reunite migrant families split up by Trump-era policies, and ordered a probe of his predecessor's immigration agenda.

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                        1337 @Obsolesce
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                        @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Obsolesce Why is it that we need to talk like we are know it all? it is so pedantic.

                        That isn't knowing more than anyone whose been familiar with IT the last decade+. I cant ever remember a time where checking the firewall wasn't part of the basic troubleshooting steps. It was just surprising that he pretended to have basis for the thought based on a blip like 20 years ago.

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                        • mlnewsM
                          mlnews
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                          Russia warns EU it could cut ties over sanctions

                          Russia is ready to sever ties with the EU if the bloc imposes new, economically painful sanctions, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says.
                          The EU has raised the prospect of further sanctions amid a row over the treatment of the jailed Russian opposition leader, Alexei Navalny. When an interviewer asked if Russia was heading for a "break" with the EU, Mr Lavrov said "we're ready for that". "If you want peace, prepare for war," he said. He said a break in ties could be triggered by EU sanctions that "create risks for our economy, including in the most sensitive areas". "We don't want to isolate ourselves from world affairs, but we have to be prepared for that." He was speaking on the Russian YouTube channel Solovyov Live.

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                          • mlnewsM
                            mlnews
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                            US snow: Winter storm tightens grip in southern states

                            Authorities across the US are on alert as a winter storm brings freezing winds, ice and snow to many areas that rarely see such frigid conditions.
                            President Joe Biden has approved a state of emergency in Texas where a surge in demand for electricity has led to widespread power cuts. The National Weather Service (NWS) said more than 150 million Americans were now under winter storm warnings. Kentucky, Mississippi, Alabama, Oregon and Oklahoma are among states affected. The freezing storm even reached northern parts of Mexico where more than four million homes and businesses lost power early on Monday.

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                            • mlnewsM
                              mlnews
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                              Covid-19: World's first human trials given green light in UK

                              Healthy, young volunteers will be infected with coronavirus to test vaccines and treatments in the world's first Covid-19 "human challenge" study, which will take place in the UK.
                              The study, which has received ethics approval, will start in the next few weeks and recruit 90 people aged 18-30. They will be exposed to the virus in a safe and controlled environment while medics monitor their health. The UK has given doses of a Covid vaccine to more than 15 million people. Human challenge studies have played a vital role in pushing the development of treatments for a number of diseases, including malaria, typhoid, cholera and flu. The trials will help scientists work out the smallest amount of coronavirus needed to cause infection, and how the body's immune system reacts to it. This will give doctors a better understanding of Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus, which will feed into the development of vaccines and treatments.

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                              • mlnewsM
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                                Nasa's Perseverance rover lands on Mars

                                There's a new robot on the surface of Mars.
                                The American space agency has successfully landed its Perseverance rover in a deep crater near the planet's equator called Jezero. Engineers at Nasa's mission control in California erupted with joy when confirmation of touchdown came through. The six-wheeled vehicle will now spend at least the next two years drilling into the local rocks, looking for evidence of past life. Jezero is thought to have held a giant lake billions of years ago. And where there's been water, there's the possibility there might also have been life.

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                                • black3dynamiteB
                                  black3dynamite
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                                  https://www.dailydot.com/irl/dominos-workers-winter-storm-texas-photo/

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2021-02-18/nicaragua-creates-ministry-of-extraterrestrial-space-affairs

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2021-02-18/nicaragua-creates-ministry-of-extraterrestrial-space-affairs

                                      In recent months, Ortega’s government has proposed, passed and implemented a number of laws making it more difficult for nongovernmental organizations to operate.

                                      yeah, that seems like a good place to work... but we also know that Scott likes the idea of Dictators (benevolent ones I would assume).

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                                      • mlnewsM
                                        mlnews
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                                        Texas weather: President Biden declares major disaster

                                        President Joe Biden has declared a major disaster in Texas, clearing the way for more federal funds to be spent on relief efforts in the US state.
                                        Power is returning across Texas and temperatures are set to rise but some 13 million people are still facing difficulties accessing clean water. Mr Biden has said he will visit Texas as long as his presence is not a burden on relief efforts. Nearly 60 deaths have been attributed to cold weather across the US. In a statement released by the White House, President Biden said he had "ordered federal assistance to supplement state and local recovery efforts in the areas affected by severe winter storms". "Assistance can include grants for temporary housing and home repairs, low-cost loans to cover uninsured property losses, and other programmes to help individuals and business owners recover from the effects of the disaster," the statement said. Mr Biden has been in touch with the mayors of some of Texas' biggest cities, such as Houston, Austin and Dallas, to ensure they have access to government resources, an administration official said.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/02/20/europe/jasmine-harrison-ocean-row-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

                                          70 days at sea, alone.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            https://nypost.com/2021/02/20/johns-hopkins-expert-says-covid-19-pandemic-could-end-by-april/

                                            Johns Hopkins "expert" says pandemic might be over in April.

                                            Of course, another Johns Hopkins expert professor and surgeon says the Egyptian pyramids are grain storage systems.

                                            So "expert" means something very different there than in other situations.

                                            Maybe their "experts" are doing heroin with the Columbia faculty.

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