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    • thanksajdotcomT
      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Dashrender said:

      Like Cursive, there are so many things you're forced to do in school that seem to have little actual relevance or need - the format of siting requirements for research papers, as an example.

      That's a good one. Never used that in college, never would you ever use it in real life. An entire "skill" whose only purpose is to distract you from useful learning in high school. It's trivial to teach yet takes lots of effort on the students' part - exactly the kind of time wasting that teachers look for. Requires no effort or knowledge on the part of the teacher and offers a nearly limitless opportunity to mark off for something that doesn't matter rather than needing to read and comprehend what was actually written.

      Cursive is good to help you with creating a signature. That's it.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Dashrender said:

        Like Cursive, there are so many things you're forced to do in school that seem to have little actual relevance or need - the format of siting requirements for research papers, as an example.

        That's a good one. Never used that in college, never would you ever use it in real life. An entire "skill" whose only purpose is to distract you from useful learning in high school. It's trivial to teach yet takes lots of effort on the students' part - exactly the kind of time wasting that teachers look for. Requires no effort or knowledge on the part of the teacher and offers a nearly limitless opportunity to mark off for something that doesn't matter rather than needing to read and comprehend what was actually written.

        Not just high school - I'm taking a few courses now.. and they college profs want it too... hell, they even have a website they suggest you use to put it into the 'correct' format. College is definitely 20+ years behind the times!!

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          Carnival Boy
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          I had to look up cursive. You mean what we call 'joined up writing'? How else do you write if not joined up (ie each letter in a word joins with the next)?

          Unless I'm missing something.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @Carnival Boy
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            @Carnival-Boy said:

            I had to look up cursive. You mean what we call 'joined up writing'? How else do you write if not joined up (ie each letter in a word joins with the next)?

            Unless I'm missing something.

            I haven't written cursive since grade school... even my signature is something that can be barely called cursive. When I write (which is basically never) I write in print or block, which is much easier to read, although my handwriting is abysmal.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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              @Carnival-Boy said:

              I had to look up cursive. You mean what we call 'joined up writing'? How else do you write if not joined up (ie each letter in a word joins with the next)?

              Unless I'm missing something.

              We call the illegible scrolling thing only done in grade school cursive. That's probably what you call joined up writing.

              For adult writing by hand we only use printing (not joined up) because it is clearly legible which, in theory, is the only value to having written something.

              Many people refer to using a combination of the two as "girl writing." Many girls (most, I would guess) adopt a sloppy combination of the two that is kind of ridiculous.

              Cursive is how they wrote documents and letters in the eighteenth century. It's designed to make writing faster and lazier at the cost of the receiving party being able to read it.

              In engineering school cursive wasn't even allowed as it was deemed unprofessional to not print clearly and even our printing was modified to ensure maximum accuracy.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @coliver
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                @coliver said:

                I haven't written cursive since grade school... even my signature is something that can be barely called cursive. When I write (which is basically never) I write in print or block, which is much easier to read, although my handwriting is abysmal.

                Same here, I'm physically unable to write cursive anymore, have not used it since grade school and my signature is nothing like cursive.

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                  Carnival Boy
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                  So you're saying that none of the letters you write are joined? There is space between each letter? Or am I still missing something?

                  This is an example of my writing. I'm not the neatest, but here I'm only writing for my own benefit. I don't join every letter, it looks like around half. I couldn't imagine writing any other way without being really, really slow.

                  writing2.jpeg

                  What's your writing like?

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                  • thanksajdotcomT
                    thanksajdotcom
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                    My handwriting models after my mother's, which is a hybrid of print and cursive.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                      @thanksaj said:

                      My handwriting models after my mother's, which is a hybrid of print and cursive.

                      That's what we call "girl writing." 🙂

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
                        last edited by

                        @Carnival-Boy said:

                        So you're saying that none of the letters you write are joined? There is space between each letter? Or am I still missing something?

                        This is an example of my writing. I'm not the neatest, but here I'm only writing for my own benefit. I don't join every letter, it looks like around half. I couldn't imagine writing any other way without being really, really slow.

                        writing2.jpeg

                        What's your writing like?

                        Yeah, that is neither cursive nor printing. Your "Add to" is printing, your "domain and uninstall" are cursive.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          Girl writing, that's a new one.

                          Here a sample of mine just sitting here on the desk
                          A few of my characters are done in cursive style, but they still don't link. The main letter that's missing for me that I always do cursive is J my first initial. I like the cursive look better, so I just kept it.
                          A few things might seem linked, but it's more laziness, not picking the pen/pencil up enough to not leave a mark on the page.

                          sample.jpg

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            Girl writing, that's a new one.

                            I've almost never seen guys write with alternating cursive and printing, but nearly all girls seem to do it. It's reliable enough that you can usually, in the US at least, use it to identify gender through writing.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              Girl writing, that's a new one.

                              I've almost never seen guys write with alternating cursive and printing, but nearly all girls seem to do it. It's reliable enough that you can usually, in the US at least, use it to identify gender through writing.

                              I'm sure you're right, it's just not a term I've ever heard used.

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                              • thanksajdotcomT
                                thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Girl writing, that's a new one.

                                I've almost never seen guys write with alternating cursive and printing, but nearly all girls seem to do it. It's reliable enough that you can usually, in the US at least, use it to identify gender through writing.

                                I'll post what mine looks like on here later. No paper around. Or pens...lol

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Girl writing, that's a new one.

                                  I've almost never seen guys write with alternating cursive and printing, but nearly all girls seem to do it. It's reliable enough that you can usually, in the US at least, use it to identify gender through writing.

                                  Yeah, I know exactly what you are talking about. Alot of girls have interchangeable handwriting especially when in highschool.

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                                  • thanksajdotcomT
                                    thanksajdotcom
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                                    This is mine, as promised...
                                    upload-a2ce916b-afda-4e53-94cc-563739805212

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
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                                      As a left handed person, I hate writing by hand. Period.

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                                        Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        I've almost never seen guys write with alternating cursive and printing, but nearly all girls seem to do it. It's reliable enough that you can usually, in the US at least, use it to identify gender through writing.

                                        Are you saying that if I was American I'd be a girl?

                                        Surely the main point is that cursive is faster to write and therefore better.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @Carnival Boy
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                                          @Carnival-Boy said:

                                          Surely the main point is that cursive is faster to write and therefore better.

                                          I know people say this, but i have never seen proof.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                            @Carnival-Boy said:

                                            Surely the main point is that cursive is faster to write and therefore better.

                                            I've heard that the entire point of writing is to be able to be read and therefore cursive isn't better. The idea that speed beats readability is an odd one. Sure, sometimes you can read it, but many times you cannot. It's incredibly difficult to read (ergo, slow) so it generally defeats any speed advantages that it might have. But I'm not convinced that it is faster to write either. At least not to write correctly. If you are okay with it not being legible, sure anything is fast when it is reduced to scribbling.

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