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@dave247 said in Which Nas OS?:
I feel like if you use something like FreeBSD then its going to be more manual management with no easy way to do what you want to do
That's the false marketing that they want you to think. They prey on people getting sucked in to the pretty pictures and seeing the easy tasks that don't need a GUI having a GUI and hoping that they will ignore that the hard tasks where you'd actually hope that the GUI will save you, don't have a GUI. Plus it takes something really simple and makes it more complex, and more prone to failure (FreeBSD is famous for CAUSING dataloss!) Storage is not a place to be set up to need extra skills, nor a place for instability.
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@scottalanmiller said in Which Nas OS?:
@dave247 said in Which Nas OS?:
I feel like if you use something like FreeBSD then its going to be more manual management with no easy way to do what you want to do
That's the false marketing that they want you to think. They prey on people getting sucked in to the pretty pictures and seeing the easy tasks that don't need a GUI having a GUI and hoping that they will ignore that the hard tasks where you'd actually hope that the GUI will save you, don't have a GUI. Plus it takes something really simple and makes it more complex, and more prone to failure (FreeBSD is famous for CAUSING dataloss!) Storage is not a place to be set up to need extra skills, nor a place for instability.
Yeah to me the easiest things to work with are the tools that give me the most flexibility and options.
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@scottalanmiller So that usually means a cli or just a full OS. BSD is nice to use and does its job well. Wish I could find a solid Solaris fork that was still being developed.
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@scottalanmiller Hey Scotty! Yes, I know you meant the NAS OS (that we can install) vs Vendor + Hardware/Software/Support Stack. Gotcha we on same page!
I honestly wish Synology would make a Linux distro
their stuff is sexy can't lie. But I think what I was referring to is really the "niche" market of people doing Synology OS (the open-source version) that is basically the same thing as loading FreeNAS. I haven't done it but was thinking of tinkering with it at home for sh*ts & giggles. Same with FreeNAS. But at work I started off with Synology, and honestly after all the learning and listening from you Scott over the years, it's like I kinda don't even need Synology I would rather just have another server with a proper virtualization stack. The only thing I'm missing out on is really the remote backup features from XCP-NG. I would probably like to send a feature request for them to maybe consider using like Amazon or Azure as a backup point. But I recall MSP360 can do the heavy lifting. -
@jmoore said in Which Nas OS?:
Wish I could find a solid Solaris fork that was still being developed.
I mean, Illumos has been idle for seven hours now.
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@krisleslie said in Which Nas OS?:
But I think what I was referring to is really the "niche" market of people doing Synology OS (the open-source version) that is basically the same thing as loading FreeNAS.
They'd fall into the same boat. A system that depends on support, whose function is support, layered onto something else. Synology is a great product. Remove the support and it's a nice looking, but worthless GUI layer.
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@scottalanmiller said in Which Nas OS?:
@jmoore said in Which Nas OS?:
Wish I could find a solid Solaris fork that was still being developed.
I mean, Illumos has been idle for seven hours now.
Ok I am going to try it with OmniOS.
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@jmoore said in Which Nas OS?:
@scottalanmiller said in Which Nas OS?:
@jmoore said in Which Nas OS?:
Wish I could find a solid Solaris fork that was still being developed.
I mean, Illumos has been idle for seven hours now.
Ok I am going to try it with OmniOS.
But they've been idle THREE DAYS, lol
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@krisleslie said in Which Nas OS?:
The only thing I'm missing out on is really the remote backup features from XCP-NG.
Proxmox has backups built in, too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Which Nas OS?:
@krisleslie said in Which Nas OS?:
The only thing I'm missing out on is really the remote backup features from XCP-NG.
Proxmox has backups built in, too.
Although its only full backups.
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@black3dynamite said in Which Nas OS?:
@scottalanmiller said in Which Nas OS?:
@krisleslie said in Which Nas OS?:
The only thing I'm missing out on is really the remote backup features from XCP-NG.
Proxmox has backups built in, too.
Although its only full backups.
True. But add compression and dedupe and it's only so bad.
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@scottalanmiller said in Which Nas OS?:
@black3dynamite said in Which Nas OS?:
@scottalanmiller said in Which Nas OS?:
@krisleslie said in Which Nas OS?:
The only thing I'm missing out on is really the remote backup features from XCP-NG.
Proxmox has backups built in, too.
Although its only full backups.
True. But add compression and dedupe and it's only so bad.
So far I'm only using the backup for small containers and VMs.
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@scottalanmiller you are 100% correct I would be back in the same issue. I actually can say I lived that life. When my nas went through a phase it wasn't supported and didn't get updates, their support sent me to the wolves. I eventually got it to work after 1-2 years after they pushed a firmware update unexpectedly. That left me feeling like yea, I would rather just deal with a server, vm and storage from Window. If something breaks, to some degree I can just spin up another vm and continue working. I don't have a 2nd Synology nas so that in itself is a point of failure.
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@black3dynamite yea I'm more intune with wanting to have the ability to push it to Amazon or Azure or some other cloud vendor. Have to tip my hat, Synology does it out the box.
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@krisleslie said in Which Nas OS?:
I don't have a 2nd Synology nas so that in itself is a point of failure.
Sure, but at least you can go to the store and get another.
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Valid point
